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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the majority of instances of anti-Muslim violence in India have occurred in the northern and western states of India?

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Deletion request

It is totally misleading and false information and can cause social problems and riots 2409:4060:294:67CA:0:0:98F:8A1 (talk) 07:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PLease read wp:afd, you can't ask for an article to be deleted on its talk page. Slatersteven (talk) 09:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page is very misleading in nature. Violence has been perpetrated against Hindus as well or any other religion for that matter. Associating violence with religion fails humanity and further creates divide. Sashwat0707 (talk) 16:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How is it misleading, do we say there is only violence against slims please quote where we say that? Slatersteven (talk) 16:31, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You do understand that by omitting that violence was done against Hindus too, acts in favour of you expressing that only Islam suffered. Please stop hiding behind the words and put in all the fact, if not, then dont put any. 2405:201:D01C:2045:2450:4579:281B:E9B6 (talk) 20:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We don't Persecution of Hindus. Slatersteven (talk) 20:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article totally a propaganda to make hindus a villian. This article talks about riots but only mentions muslim casualties. Moreover , there are many riots initiated by muslims too. In Independent India, the number of death of hindus are more than muslims because of riots initiated by muslims. Western media won't mention that many riots started because of violence done by muslims at start but they will start blaming Hindus when they retaliate. These propagandas have been going on for long. This article is make Hindus look like villains when Hindus are ones who are dying more. They will mention RSS or Other hindu groups but they will never mention muslim groups that are funding terrorism. Recently , Bangladeshi Hindus are suffering too but what is western or arabic media like aljazeera doing. They are making it like it ok. Few years in future, i will another wikipedia article like this where they will mention no hindus or temples were killed or destroyed. Similarly in Raesi , Kashmir, islamist terrorist killed Hindu pilgrims. So, Why would any common innocent man love muslims after all these violence. Why don't you write violence against Hindus in Independent India, Pakistan and Bangladesh in same style? Then i will agree that you are not biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:40E6:3B:E382:34C6:984D:9CA3:F555 (talk) 15:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PLease read wp:afd. Slatersteven (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go: Persecution of Hindus. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of neutrality in tone

Violence against Muslims in Independent India has faced criticism for not adhering to the Five Pillars of Wikipedia. Concerns include a lack of neutrality in tone, selective sourcing that may be biased, and an absence of balance in presenting diverse perspectives. To uphold Wikipedia's credibility, editors are encouraged to address these issues by incorporating a more balanced representation and diverse sources. — Sanskari ^Hangout 17:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93: Reverting without furnishing a substantiated rationale is a relatively straightforward task. The entirety of the article is grounded in discourse. Moreover, this assertion is corroborated by the findings of the preceding two Articles for Deletion (AfD) instances that align with the observation I have elucidated. I had concentrated on WP:TALKPOV within the context of WP:TALK#FACTS via WP:TALK#DISCUSS. — Sanskari ^Hangout 17:57, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, your recent edits/contributions indicate WP:COI with a specific religion community. — Sanskari ^Hangout 18:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you have actual evidence, in the form of material in reliable sources that isn't covered in the article, please present it here. If you have evidence that I am violating Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, please bring it to WP:AN or WP:ARBCOM; or else stop making such allegations, because without evidence they constitute personal attacks. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you not expunged the dependable link from The Times of India on the talk page? Was that not an authoritative source? Do not your recent edits and contributions suggest a predilection towards a particular community? I remain unacquainted with you on a personal level and withhold any subjective judgments. My observations are confined to highlighting certain expunged facts. Furthermore, rather than addressing the specific comment, you precipitately inferred that I am formulating a personal attack. I have additionally highlighted the existence of both Islamic and non-Islamic states globally, asserting that proliferating articles on "Violence against Muslims" in each state may lead Wikipedia to degradation. Prior to the conferral of Wikipedia administration rights, it is presumed that you underwent an extensive review of numerous FAQs and engaged in pertinent discussions. Was there not a guideline promoting a disposition of kindness towards fellow editors? — Sanskari ^Hangout 18:17, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very funny how you are already back to accusing people with COI without any evidence.

Where is your evidence that no violence against Muslims happened in India? Capitals00 (talk) 12:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

wrong editing by someone

I wanted to say this page should be edited as there is lot of hate committed by writing against India's rulling BJP party and RSS , the social working organizations. violence against muslims is attributed to Indian history not by BJP or RSS. please remove the biased writing otherwise strict action would be taken. why you all don't have dare to speak against terrorist organization. Nydv160 (talk) 10:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We go by what reliable sources say. Slatersteven (talk) 11:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven

Let me tell you BJP government came in power after 2013. And all the riots given in the page happened during congress rule. Reliable sources are fake, they just need propaganda to write against BJP rulling party and RSS.

If biased things written against BJP and RSS is not removed then strict action would be taken to delete this page.

why you don't create page on violence against hindus, the ways muslims did Mumbai attack and bombings.

useless muslim appeaser, Nydv160 (talk) 11:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then take these sources to wp:rsn, you do not get to dismiss them, the community can. Slatersteven (talk) 11:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh and Persecution of Hindus. Slatersteven (talk) 11:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven There is already a page persecution of muslims.

there is seperate page of violence against muslims but no seperate page for violence against Hindus.

people opening Wikipedia will get wrong knowledge about hindus and BJP. In history lakhs of more hindus were killed but all organizations in the world follow muslim appeasement policies including Wikipedia. Nydv160 (talk) 11:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What, are you saying that more Hindus were killed in post impendence India than Muslims, source? Slatersteven (talk) 12:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven muslims killed in independence India were nothing against the Hindus they killed in Calcutta, malabar, barisal,noakhali, 1964 east Pakistan riots,1971 operation searchlight Nydv160 (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not all of those are in post-independence India, so are not relevant to this article. So how many people died, source, not original research, not your assertions, a figure. Slatersteven (talk) 12:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven Can you make a page about violence against Hindus in Independent Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Please I would be so grateful, I can send you information and article. See the statics hindus are brutually killed in Bangladesh. There absolute population is stable since a century in Bangladesh. in west Bengal muslim population increased from 5 million to 2.5 crore of India. Nydv160 (talk) 12:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh is not part of the nation of India, stop conflating different issues, this page is about India, only India, and solely India. If you have sources, saying that more Hindus have been killed (in modern India) than Muslims, [present them here. Slatersteven (talk) 12:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion request

Falsified lnfo, will give rise to communal disharmony.Content should be immediately deleted 2402:8100:25D7:6AC1:0:0:473D:10B (talk) 07:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THis is not how you get articles deleted, you need to wp:afd them, with better reasons than "I do not like it". Slatersteven (talk) 10:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]