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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 July 2023

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{{Merge into|Russian-occupied territories in Ukraine}} 216.49.130.19 (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Tollens (talk) 22:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with the infobox

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Currently, the infobox says: "Formal annexation of an undefined area in and around Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts by the Russian Federation[1], including a part of Mykolaiv Oblast[2], illegal under international law[3] and condemned by the United Nations[4]"

The first two references are the Guardian and Reuters, which are reporting statements of fact. However, the problem arises with [3], which is just a link to the primary source of the UN Charter on un.org. Another problem arises with [4] where it says it is condemned by the United Nations. But the organization itself did not issue a condemnation. The reference provided is a vote that took place in the General Assembly, which was not unanimous. So instead, it should be rephrased with an exact number of countries that supported the resolution. I propose the following change:

"Formal annexation of an undefined area in and around Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts by the Russian Federation[1], including a part of Mykolaiv Oblast[2], declared illegal under international law and condemned by 143 members of the United Nations[4]" In other words, I propose [3], the link to the charter on un.org, be removed, and let the press.un.org be the reference for both the declaration of illegality and the condemnation, both of which were part of the UNGA resolution.

I'm going to make this change now. If anyone objects, please explain your objection here. Thanks JasonMacker (talk) 20:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've decided to word it as "...and 143 members of the United Nations condemned the annexation and declared it illegal under international law", as I felt that sounded better. Please let me know if any of you have concerns.--JasonMacker (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“called [them] the enemy”

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Not “called [them] as the enemy” 82.36.70.81 (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Rsk6400 (talk) 07:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed move

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@GreatLeader1945: I reverted your move. While it's not strictly necessary to discuss a move before doing it, this page has already been moved in 2022, and the name "Ukraine" has been removed from the article title. Additionally, I think we should avoid making an overlong article title even longer, and we should avoid having "of" twice. Of course you are free to start a move discussion. Rsk6400 (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change it from Syria to the former Ba'athist Syria

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Only Ba'athist Syria recognised the Russian annexation of Ukrainian territories, the current Syrian Transitional Government don't. Votbek (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]