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I have done so but placed this here in case an admin gets revert happy and chooses there linguistic prefernces over factual accuracy. Nirame (talk) 17:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not surprised it was messed with. "Latest self-identified gendered identity"? Surely "their sex after their operation" is perfectly PC... 92.20.121.94 (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article begins: 'Angela Morley was an English composer and conductor who became a familiar household name to BBC Radio listeners in the 1950s.'
Angela Morley did not become a familiar household name to BBC Radio listeners in the 1950s. Wally Stott became a familiar household name to BBC Radio listeners in the 1950s. There was no one working on BBC Radio in the 1950s by the name of Angela Morley.
I'm not sure of the best way of rewriting this, but as written I would say it's rather misleading. Perhaps "...who, as Wally Stott, became..."? GDBarry (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have reinstated the name "Wally Stott" in the introductory sentence because the sentence as it stood was simply untrue (see my comments in the previous section). Angela Morley was NOT a "familiar household name" in the 1950s, for the simple reason that the subject did not use the name "Angela Morley" in the 1950s. If you'd asked a BBC radio listener in the 1950s "who is Angela Morley", they wouldn't have been able to tell you. Surely this is just common sense.GDBarry (talk) 14:14, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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