Talk:Nerkin Horatagh
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Requested move 21 December 2020
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. The opposing arguments don't give a compelling rationale in terms of WP:Article titles policy; in particular, we prioritize the common name over the official name. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 08:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Aşağı Oratağ → Nerkin Horatagh – Move to "Nerkin Horatagh" per WP:AT/WP:COMMONNAME:
Results from Google: Nerkin Horatagh: 1,080 Aşağı Oratağ: 318
Results from Google Scholar: Nerkin Horatagh: 2 Aşağı Oratağ: 0
AntonSamuel (talk) 09:50, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Clarification: Utilizing search results from Google should be done with caution, but is acceptable per WP:NCGN:
Regarding multiple local names: "Simple Google tests are acceptable to settle the matter, despite their problems; one solution is to follow English usage where it can be determined, and to adopt the name used by the linguistic majority where English usage is indecisive."
As this matter concerns a larger issue that is a matter of contention - an RfC for a naming convention for Nagorno-Karabakh may be needed if consensus cannot be achieved, as has been suggested before, however I hope the admin that closes this discussion will look carefully at all the arguments that have been made and take WP:VOTE into consideration.
AntonSamuel (talk) 14:31, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support. Name was same in Soviet times, so it's WP:NPOV. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support - per my belief that town names should be whatever the 1988 majority ethnic group prefers. --RaffiKojian (talk) 18:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - This village is located in Azerbaijan and this name was given by Azerbaijani government. EljanM (TALK) 09:48, 23 December 2020
- Oppose. Most search results are mirrors, tweets, hashtags and dodgy websites. The results from Google Scholar are too insignificant to establish a common name in English. Parishan (talk) 06:28, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Sincerely, Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 09:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Since it is officially part of Terter district, the official name should be used. Grandmaster 10:34, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose It’s de-jure in Azerbaijan must have an Azerbaijani name for it. Carthago814 (talk) 12:20, 3 January (UTC)
- Support per nom. Super Ψ Dro 19:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Support The common name should be used. More generally the common names of locations within Nagorno Karabakh normally are not the Azerbaijani names; Given that we should not default to the Azerbaijani name. Additionally the region still is de facto part of Artsakh and the name represents the local usage. Maidyouneed (talk) 06:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)