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Source needed

For Doug Collins as a potential candidate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Election Tron (talk • contribs) 20:33, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal Spree

Recently on this page people have been editing stuff that makes no sense about wresting champions. I know Wikipedia doesn't really protect senate pages and we can IP block but this person who is vandalizing has proved they won't stop. I am requesting we protect this page for a week or 2 or just IP block this person. I know it's kinda pointless to protect this smaller page but it is getting annoying needing to revert these edits. Justarandomnamejake (talk) 23:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. Do you know how to protect the page? I think it may require an admin. Jacoby531 (talk) 03:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've reported the IP at AIV, so hopefully that'll clear it up. Squeakachu (talk) 04:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong article linked?

Georgia 2022: AG Chris Carr will run for re-election -- not US Senate is currently used to source Kelvin King, Latham Saddler, Herschel Walker, Burt Jones, Jack Kingston, and Chris Carr, but Carr is the only one mentioned in the article. Did the editor who added it have several articles opened and use the wrong one? Egsan Bacon (talk) 17:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Runoffs

I think that both top candidates should be shaded if neither one is over 50%. This is because third-party candidates commonly run and garner a few percentage points. If there are only two candidates running, then it would make more sense to only shade the top candidate. Thomascampbell123 (talk) 00:42, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. The page for the 2020 general and 2020 special elections both had this property due to Georgia's runoff law. OutlawRun (talk) 20:29, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, thank goodness the runoff wasn't scheduled for January 2023. Otherwise, we would've had a push for this page to be 'moved', like the 2020–21 United States Senate special election in Georgia page. Not to mention having a runoff campaign lasting two months, instead of one month. GoodDay (talk) 04:44, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When would a potential run-off take place?

If the Libertarian candidate is able to obtain 2 or 3 percent of the vote neither candidate might win outright and break 50 percent. 93.206.55.125 (talk) 02:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If necessary, the runoff is scheduled for December 6 Scoutguy138 (talk) 03:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 93.206.55.125 (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The latest Fox News poll finds Warnock up 1 among RV...

but Herschel Walker is up by one point among likely voters. Should be included in the polling collection.93.206.50.247 (talk) 17:31, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What you're characterizing as "likely voters" here are for respondents self-assessing that they are definitely voting.^[1] The pollster doesn't explicitly include a subset for likely voters and so there isn't a publicized sample size or margin of error for it. —twotwofourtysix^{(talk || edits)} 12:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/11/GA-topline_Sen-Gov-General_conducted-October-26-30_released-November-2-2022.pdf

Third Party on Infobox

Chase Oliver belongs on the infobox. I understand that he got less than 5% of the vote but it is inaccurate to only have two candidates as if there were only two, one would get 50%, and there would be no runoff. His 2.1% is the reason there is a runoff so it clearly matters. Sure, the 2020-21 special election page does not include any candidate with less than 5% but that is because there were other candidates that caused a runoff election. Think about people looking at this page in the future. It is important to show a candidate that caused the runoff. Also, the election night coverage by all major news stations covered the third candidate because he was significant. They would not have if he was not important enough. Lastly, the 5% criteria is completely arbitrary based on nothing and it is illogical. I am just trying to make this page accurate. If you disagree, please explain why. If your reason is the 5% criteria, explain why that is a relevant criteria.

Agree. Especially given Chase Oliver's coverage in the national media at present. And his alleged interest in promoting a ranked voting system to avoid run-offs, which is exactly what his running caused. So historically, it was spot on. In any case, can someone point to the WP policy regarding the infobox 5% criteria? •Bobsd• (talk) 16:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The maze of historical RFCs on the 5% threshold is rather difficult to navigate. I've created Wikipedia:Five percent rule which makes this all much easier. In short, there has been a consensus for a 5% threshold for third-party candidates. Koopinator (talk) 19:54, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This still does not explain why 5% is not an arbitrary number or why it is applicable to this specific election. Do you not agree that this should be an exception because of the run-off argument. I think sometimes editors on wikipedia want to follow the rules/consensus too strictly and they do not take into account that not every situation is the same. I understand and agree with the the 5% thresholds for most elections because it avoids cluttering the infobox with inconsequential candidates but that is not the case here. That being said, will someone provide an argument as to why the 5% rule should apply here? Wikiaccount03 (talk) 04:04, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By that I mean, an argument that is not just "it is a consensus rule". Why is Chase Oliver not a consequential candidate for this election? Wikiaccount03 (talk) 04:06, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox is not a measure of what's "consequential", it summarizes the article in the broadest strokes possible. He was never considered a viable candidate by the media, and that is borne out by the low support he received in the election. 25stargeneral (talk) 04:23, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I ask you to think about this. When one looks at this Wikipedia article at sometime in the future, when the information is not fresh in our minds, they will see that a runoff election occurred but that there were only two candidates. It would either be confusing as to how one could not get 50% of the vote if there were only two or the person would have to delve into the article further. The infobox is for the quick overview, I agree with this, so that is why the third party should be on the infobox so that the information can be seen in the quick overview. Adding him to the infobox does not make it seem that he was a viable candidate. It is clear that he only got 2.1% of the vote and he was eliminated before the runoff. So I do not think that is the concern you think it is. Wikiaccount03 (talk) 21:21, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

5% is arbitrary, but that's generally how we do things. There are occasional exceptions, such as including the PPC at 2021 Canadian federal election, but this is generally what we do. There was no issue with using the 5% rule in the 2020–21 United States Senate election in Georgia. Readers aren't that dumb, they can understand that there are more candidates than listed in the infobox. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:30, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Agree~~ Thank you Koopinator for creating the Wikipedia:Five percent rule and taking the time to search through the older RFC's and discussions. I now agree that it should be sufficient, in this case, to have the information about Chase Oliver remain in the lede, and not be placed in the infobox. Being in the lede should be prominent enough for a reader to find, without going against past resolutions. •Bobsd• (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver didn't advance to the runoff, so he doesn't belong. GoodDay (talk) 06:10, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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