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Former featured article1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on September 18, 2004.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 7, 2004Featured article candidatePromoted
May 30, 2007Featured article reviewDemoted
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on April 15, 2004, June 4, 2004, June 4, 2005, June 4, 2006, June 4, 2007, June 4, 2009, June 4, 2012, June 4, 2014, June 4, 2017, and June 4, 2019.
Current status: Former featured article

General Questions

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How did protesters merely attempting to block the soldiers end up killing them? How many soldiers died and what methods were used to kill them?

Additionally, the 1995 US State Department funded documentary The Gate of Heavenly Peace shows Chai Ling giving a speech in which she openly calls for violent insurrection and received loud cheers from those near her. Doesn't this imply that there were people at the protest who were not merely demonstrating for democracy, but were openly supporting the violent overthrow of the government? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikaelaBasher (talkcontribs) 09:44, September 16, 2024 (UTC)

Tank man section thumbnail

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Are you sure that a mural from Cologne is more suitable for the section thumbnail than the actual photo? May be, just may be we should place an original photo to the section? 45.15.16.52 (talk) 09:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a copyright thing. See Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 April 12#File:Tank Man (Tiananmen Square protester).jpg. Given it's a commercial image, the debate wound up falling on the idea that there's a legitimate non-free use argument for having it on the article for Tank Man, but that's the only valid use. So we can't use it in this article.
Now, that is a 13-year-old discussion, so it's possible consensus has changed. But when it comes to copyright, Wikipedia tends to be pretty strict, so I doubt the community would be willing to overturn that decision. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 13:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Zhiyong

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Under the section "Death of Hu Yaobang," I followed the hyperlink for one of the students in the second to last paragraph, Zhou Yongjun, and his biography mentioned his affiliation with the massacre. But the other student, Zhang Zhiyong, is only described as an actor, which itself doesn't seem quite right because how would a former student protestor at such a politically divided event go on to become such a successful entertainer? The other student was immediately expelled from school. Zhang Zhiyong's biography also doesn't mention the massacre at all, so is this really the same Zhiyong? It doesn't add up. - ShamsGuan (talk) 17:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]