File talk:Theatrix-cover.jpg

This image belongs to Backstage Press, and I have included a fair-use rationale for using this non-free image. It is a book cover. Which tag should I have used? I would like to keep this image help identify the product in the associated article, but also wish to do it properly.Ukulele 06:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Backstage Press is not asserted to be the source of this image when it was uploaded; it is derived from the site of ABCdaire des Jeux de Rôle. This image should be deleted and a new image and licence obtained rom Backstage Press. --Gavin Collins 08:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you disputing the fair-use rationale? Can not a copyrighted image be used if it falls under the guidelines for fair-use? Ukulele 14:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not if the source forbids it, as is clear in this case. --Gavin Collins 14:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the statement you refer to seems to translate to:

All role-playing cited in the site, their names, their logos, their supplements are the property of their respective editor.

This appears to indicate that the site where the image originates does not claim ownership or copyright of this image. I believe fair-use is satisfied here as I can find no statement by Backstage Press that this image is forbidden to be used. I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me to the policy you are referring to. I am getting a bit lost in the mass of articles about non-free image use. Thanks. Ukulele 15:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What does the first part of the copy right statement say? Forgive my French, but I think it translates as: "Any use of the contents of this site is not allowed without prior authorisation." I don't think you have such authorisation, but you could get it. --Gavin Collins 15:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe we are circling each other's argument here. I believe you are making a technical point that because the website where the image was taken has blanket statement attempting to protect all it's content from reproduction, fair-use of the image is not possible. Can you please point me to the Wikipedia policy that supports this? Copyright protection does not extend to proper fair-use. Once again, I am honestly asking you to point me the particular article (and paragraph if possible) of the Wikipedia policy upon which you are basing your argument. Were I to acquiesce to this RFD and simply upload a scanned image, would you then request deletion of this image based on other grounds? Ukulele 17:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]