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Death Race 2 is currently a Film good article nominee. Nominated by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) at 07:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: 2010 action film directed by Roel Reiné

I am pretty sure this movie is just an excuse to reuse the Death Race sets from 2 years prior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.51.98 (talk) 00:17, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and the cars. Drsruli (talk) 04:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

The deletion tag was added and said that the page was about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content. This is nonsense, the article is about a film. The article also contains many reliable references, and there are many more references available on the internet if people wish to expand the page furhter. The film has also finished filming and is in post production, meaning that it fits Wikipedia's critera that for a film article to be created it must at least have begun filming. Therefore the film deserves its own article. I see no reason why it should not be deleted. The Editor 155 (talk) 08:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of deletion, there used to be a section that contained what cars were used and what modifications and weapons they had and who drove them. What happened to that? NeoRewerts (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Release

When was the movie actually released? --Boycool (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a direct to DVD movie, it's release date is the day the movie goes on sale. Uksam88 (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...Which, according to this article, is in three weeks. --Boycool (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

Does the plot really end with him checking up on Katrina? Is there really no Death Race in Death Race 2? --Boycool (talk) 12:03, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Twisted Metal referance?

Is Markus Kane nammed after the recurring Marcus Kane character from Twisted Metal?

Countries

1. Filmed entirely on location in South Africa. 2. Production companies from the US, South Africa and Romania. 3. WTF is with Australia? This is not Mad Max.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Launchballer talk 13:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Death Race 2 is not a sequel but the prequel to a prequel?

Source: "If Death Race 2 proves anything, it’s that director Roel Reiné is not the one who shits on the sidewalk. And how did he do that, you ask? By delivering a prequel to Paul Anderson’s prequel to the Roger Corman classic Death Race 2000 that’s far more competent a prequel than the original prequel ever could be." - Dread Central

ALT1: ... that The A.V. Club found Death Race 2 boring and nowhere near as "damn good" as its predecessor? Source: The A.V. Club
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of roles and awards of Liza Soberano
Comment: Hoping WP:IAR can be applied to this nomination. I made my first edit to this article last January but only to modify the infobox image file name following a file upload of an actual cover artwork for the movie (diff). On June 18 I made the same edit but then suddenly realized the article's body was essentially a mess (diff), hence the expansion. Bottomline is my edits prior to the expansion were relatively minor and I don't believe they're blatant violation of the newness criterion. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 10:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Nineteen Ninety-Four guy: Article was 5221 characters preexpansion (18 June) and is 11143 characters now. I suggest that you nominate this for WP:GA.--Laun chba ller 12:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Out of curiosity, how much characters should I have provided to make this 5x? Because based on my calculations, I've added 5,922 characters, which is roughly 51% expansion. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:53, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

26105, so you'd need a further 14962.--Laun chba ller 13:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. You may close this, thanks. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate title

@AdamDeanHall: Please do not include the working title in the lead in parentheticals. A vast majority of reliable sources don't actually consider this to be an official alternate title, not even the studio, therefore it should not be accorded due weight. Titles, official or otherwise, should comply with WP:WEIGHT and reflect what is specified by a majority of mainstream reliable sources. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 14:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reception review

Moved from user talk:czar

Hi, do you mind giving your thoughts on Death Race 2#Reception on this article's talk for a moment? I'm nominating the article for GA, and it appears you feel strongly about this particular section being well written, in accordance with the essay on the matter. So, I thought I'd ask you whether the prose needed some work to meet criteria 1a and 3a. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 10:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Sure, here are some notes:

Great that there is a singular source (Moviehole) offering summative thoughts of the Reception to cite but is Moviehole.net reliable? I would think not, since it describes itself as "a film blog created for film fans by film fans ... We do not receive financial remuneration for our work here, we write purely for fun and the joy of informing others". Best off striking it.
- Right, but for what it's worth, it has been used by relatively high-quality sources as a secondary source before, rumor or otherwise; for example:
  - Total Film (now hosted by GamesRadar+): [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]
  - IGN: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]
  - Film Threat: [11], [12]
  - /Film: [13]
I was able to find the moviehole source through Total Film: https://www.gamesradar.com/death-race-3-is-gearing-up/
Being used by other sources is a start but it doesn't confer reliability. It's still an amateur film blog without editorial standing. If a reliable source made those Moviehole conclusions in their own voice or with attribution, that would be those sources staking their own editorial credibility. Several of those Moviehole mentions are about rumors, which we would stay far away from in any publication. czar 23:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Czar: And the fact the article's author is Alicia Malone? Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What about it? She's written on film but I don't think this is a case of an expert self-published source, as she's choosing to write in a film blog rather than a reputable source. And their bar for posting is low. czar 16:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find the thread holding together the first paragraph. Is it about overall takeaways? If it was about overall highlights, it could cover (1) highlights—what was the best about it? what were its best moments? (2) comparison to earlier and later works

Half of the reviews therein is admittedly a takeaway; the Winniped Free Press and Arrow in the Head source, for instance

Overall, there's way too much quoting to follow what's happening. It'd be so much easier to just say that XYZ reviewers praised its action scenes for A, B, C qualities. I'm not sure what to take away from the action scenes being "solid" or that the movie "is no Death Race". Think about what a general reader would need to take away from this section.
I think the second paragraph is closer—I can edit it after a few clarifications:
Screen Daily and IGN complimented the casting what about?

Well, Screen Daily says the movie is "well cast" and IGN called the cast "pretty terrific".

note that Jason Statham is referenced earlier in the article without introduction to readers—anything the reader needs as Background should be presented within the same article
Total Film conceded not sure this verb fits; MOS:SAID
Total Film conceded that he exuded "a skin-crawling, Walken-esque screen presence" while carrying the film "through its more face-palm moments and its videogame cut-scene narrative" what is a reader meant to do with this? alt: Goss's unsettling performance, wrote Reviewer, carried the film through its campy/droll/cring-inducing/awkwardly comedic moments. i.e., give the reader something that helps them understand the POV rather than pulling the box quotes

I think that's a good place to start. There's a lot of good stuff here but I think it can be organized better for the reader. czar 18:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: I really appreciate your input. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 06:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]