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Requested move 20 September 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. No consensus to move. No agreement about name used in the UK. No agreement that poster/banner name be followed rather than listing. (non-admin closure) В²C 20:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Criminal: UKCriminal: United Kingdom – This show is branded as Criminal: United Kingdom on the British version of Netflix. It appears it may be branded as Criminal: UK in other territories, such as the United States, but as this is a British production (filmed in Madrid alongside Criminal: Spain, Criminal: France and Criminal: Germany, but with British actors, showrunners, producers and directors) it would be more appropriate to move this page to the name used in Britain. Adam Black GB (talk) 03:49, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: The show is listed as Criminal:UK on Netflix in Britain while an episode is playing, as well as on review websites such as RottenTomatoes and news sites they use UK. So this move is unnecessary. Terasail[Talk] 16:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support: As someone from England, I can also confirm the show is 'Criminal: United Kingdom' on our Netflix. Also the second season of 'Criminal', only has episodes for 'Criminal: United Kingdom' and not 'Criminal: France', 'Criminal: Spain' or 'Criminal: Germany'. As stated by the creator of this redirect, the first season had British cast and crew, including David Tennant - a Scot and Hayley Atwell - born in England. Further, the second season was made in London, England, with again some large British stars, namely Kit Harington - an Englishman and Kunal Nayyar - who may have appeared in USA shows such as The Big Bang Theory, but is an Indian-British actor. It is the same reason the first Harry Potter novel and film have articles Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film), not using the USA change in name to Sorcerer's Stone. It is unclear if the misunderstanding of the proper form is due to different countries branding, which I have already explained or if it is universal, to which I say... For the previous point made in opposition that while the show is playing in Britain the title reads 'Criminal: UK', this may be deliberate or accidental by Netflix, but nevertheless, the main title, marketing and branding shows the intent is for the title to be 'Criminal: United Kingdom'. AmaranthinePsithurism (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: It's the actual listing that counts. Not the banner. And it's listed as Criminal: UK, both here in Britain and internationally. Google it. 2A02:C7F:6E64:1C00:69A3:62C7:2438:F9BA (talk) 11:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: put criminal United Kingdom into Google and every single listing from every website is Criminal: UK. Wikipedia is for getting information so why do people want to make it wrong? The creators, reviews, companies behind it and broadcasters say it is Criminal: UK, so it is Criminal UK, the points above are mute, it is not your production, entity or property and the people who's it is, get to decide what it should be called and have done. Then just have criminal United Kingdom redirect to the Criminal UK page simple. Done. Move on. MrTimmsy1986 (talk) 11:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support: poster still shows kit Harrington from season 2 and Criminal United Kingdom below him? So maybe Netflix just abbreviated to shortened the text on screen and app? MrTimmsy1986 (talk) 11:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What Wikipedia article was ever named after a poster/banner? (the answer is none). What's the point of making arguments for and against without actually voting? 2A02:C7F:6E64:1C00:A199:4ADE:D0C8:9CE (talk) 18:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.