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Requested move 19 December 2015
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The result of the proposal was move per request as the common name and as an overprecise title.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:44, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story → Rogue One – Per WP:COMMONNAME, and the in article source from Star Wars.com announcing production beginning (here) calls it Rogue One throughout, with the only exception being the way it is presented on the logo. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:18, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support: Per Favre's reasoning, we should follow WP:COMMONNAME here. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:06, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support: Per WP:COMMONNAME, as stated above. -Rmaynardjr (talk) 04:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support as the common, concise, and accurate name. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 17:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Please add a see also hatnote for Rogue Squadron and Rogue Leader (since "1" would usually mean "leader") -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 08:54, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- Unlikely to be needed, as they are different enough to not need disambiguation. (Though using the full title as the article was at would also serve that purpose). oknazevad (talk) 17:51, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- "Rogue One" would be a character from Rogue Squadron so would be a reasonable hatnote; there is no link to the Squadron article in this article. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:48, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Pretty sure they use color calls. IE Red Two, etc., not Rogue #. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:48, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- They used "Rogue #" in The Empire Strikes Back, and in prior expanded universe media, like novels and games. That's why the old video game series was titled Star Wars: Rogue Squadron. That's probably what the anon asking about disambiguation for. I think there may be a need in the future, but think this is a case where waiting to see how things shake out in the future is wise. oknazevad (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the knowledge. If we keep seeing this pop up (ie users looking for Rogue Squadron info), we can add the hatnote. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- They used "Rogue #" in The Empire Strikes Back, and in prior expanded universe media, like novels and games. That's why the old video game series was titled Star Wars: Rogue Squadron. That's probably what the anon asking about disambiguation for. I think there may be a need in the future, but think this is a case where waiting to see how things shake out in the future is wise. oknazevad (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Pretty sure they use color calls. IE Red Two, etc., not Rogue #. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:48, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- "Rogue One" would be a character from Rogue Squadron so would be a reasonable hatnote; there is no link to the Squadron article in this article. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:48, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Cushing rumor
I have removed all mention of this uncorroborated rumor that appears to have originated at one British newspaper. That is to say, all other coverage of this supposed cgi resurrection is just reporting what the one paper said. There has been no confirmation whatsoever, and Cushing certainly should not be listed in the cast list. Unless something official is released, this is just an abysmal failure of WP:RUMOR and shouldn't be included. And certainly no one should be sit warring over it. oknazevad (talk) 17:54, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- Good call.Pistongrinder (talk) 16:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 17 March 2016
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 05:45, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Rogue One → Rogue One: A Star Wars Story – The title of this movie is somehow incorrect. The correct title should be Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. AdamDeanHall (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose see the discussion above. Per WP:COMMONNAME. - 15:57, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose: We just moved it here per the above discussion. - adamstom97 (talk) 18:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
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Character details
Is there a place to add Jyn's character details/criminal background as revealed in the first trailer, i.e. her "forgery of Imperial documents, possession of stolen property, aggravated assault, resisting arrest"?Pistongrinder (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think we should yet. We don't know when/how/why she does any of that, or if she did at all and is being framed. The last shot had her in an Imperial uniform. Did she defect, or is she infiltrating? Too many unknowns. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Forest Whitaker...
Why is he listed as a clone trooper? He doesn't look anything like Jango Fett to me... and how do we know he is called Rogue? JJsCat (talk) 18:49, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- He's not listed as a clone trooper, he's listed a veteran of the clone wars. More than just clone fought in the Clone Wars. That being said, I have no idea where they're getting all this info, they're not cited. Considering removing them actually. --82.40.171.48 (talk) 21:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. They should either be cited or removed. oknazevad (talk) 21:36, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yep, also, 1 or 2 of the citations given seem very speculative as opposed to actual confirmed facts. Not quite sure if they meet Wikipedia standards. --82.40.171.48 (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Mads Mikkelsen is not playing a villain - http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mads-Mikkelsen-Star-Wars-Rogue-One-Character-Isn-t-What-You-Think-79377.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.226.84 (talk) 03:15, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yep, also, 1 or 2 of the citations given seem very speculative as opposed to actual confirmed facts. Not quite sure if they meet Wikipedia standards. --82.40.171.48 (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. They should either be cited or removed. oknazevad (talk) 21:36, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
i removed that "clone trooper" part after i posted here. sorry for the confusion. JJsCat (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
American ... film?
The opening paragraph of this article states it is an 'Amercian ____ film' this is rather debatable given the film locations, and cast being so diverse but also primarily inside the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknowndomain (talk • contribs) 23:24, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- It's shot abroad, but Lucasfilm and Walt Disney are American companies. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:27, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes. It's an entirely American production. The producer(s)/production company determine the "nationality" (for lack of a better word) of a film.Pistongrinder (talk) 17:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Darth Vader
I don't know if you can count this or this as credible sources, but it looks like the Darth Vader rumors are ramping up. An actor has allegedly been named to play the part (Vader's body anyway). It's probably still too early to include anything on the page, and an official announcement may never be made before the movie's release. Just something to keep an eye on.Pistongrinder (talk) 17:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- These are primarily rumours and so I wouldn't say they're credible. Is it likely Vader will be in the movie? Yes. Is it likely this guy will be in the suit? Maybe. But there's no official confirmation on that just yet. Things may change soon. --Jsngrwd (talk) 23:52, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- It appears that someone has added in the information anyway. Looking at the reference, it says that the actor will 'reportedly' play Vader and references the same flickering myth articles given above. Given the sources, I'd like to revert the addition, but will wait a bit to see if any more comments pop up here. JMcGowan2 (talk) 12:11, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- I personally don't mind it being there, although someone will probably slap it with a Crystal Ball label. Perhaps it would be better mentioned in the sentence below, along the lines of: "rumours that Welsh actor Spencer Wilding will play the role of Darth Vader have been circulated in the media, but remain unconfirmed by official sources." - instead of presenting him in the list of actors, which makes it seem definite. Seem fair? Cnbrb (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Never mind, someone's deleted it. Best wait for official confirmation. Cnbrb (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. Just brought it up as an interesting FYI.Pistongrinder (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Never mind, someone's deleted it. Best wait for official confirmation. Cnbrb (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Still too early to make an addition to the page, but just a head's up for those interested: Multiple outlets are saying Darth Vader is featured in "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - The Official Visual Story Guide." Looks like he'll be in the movie for sure. As to when the announcement becomes official and we can add it to this page, however, is still anyone's guess.Pistongrinder (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- A persistent and widely reported rumor merits inclusion on its own. Also, mentioning the rumor will stop (some) people from adding to the cast list. --198.98.255.234 (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Official Info on Rogue One reshoots (including debunking of making Rogue One lighter)
We have official information from Entertainment Weekly on the Rogue One reshoots including debunking that Rogue One will have a lighter tone: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/03/rogue-one-reshoots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.224.255.20 (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Entertainment Weekly is not involved in the film and there is nothing official about their article which says: "High level sources at Lucasfilm, speaking to EW anonymously, offered some details that place the schedule in context. (Official studio sources declined comment, saying they don’t respond to rumors.)" So even the article itself admits that it's not official. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Well, there is the Ralph McQuarrie tweet. That's pretty much a rebuttal by an involved party. oknazevad (talk) 22:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- His tweet says "Attn: bloggers. I’m reading some horseshit rumors tonight. You know where to find me. Do your jobs." He doesn't specify which rumors but he must be referring to the rumors that he has written a new script and will co-direct reshoots, not rumors about the tone of the film. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:04, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- True, but the point, more than anything, is that the various rumors are dubious value in the first place. Don't think we can, with any certainty, describe the purpose of the reshoots, and that the initial Page Six report is likely gossip column pot stirring. Wouldn't be the first time Page Six has pulled that. oknazevad (talk) 02:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- His tweet says "Attn: bloggers. I’m reading some horseshit rumors tonight. You know where to find me. Do your jobs." He doesn't specify which rumors but he must be referring to the rumors that he has written a new script and will co-direct reshoots, not rumors about the tone of the film. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:04, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Well, there is the Ralph McQuarrie tweet. That's pretty much a rebuttal by an involved party. oknazevad (talk) 22:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Confirmation Vader will be voiced once again by James Earl Jones and confirmation Spencer Wilding is one of Vader's body stunt doubles
https://twitter.com/breznican/status/745976382266630144 - Confirmation that Spencer Wilding is one of Vader's stunt doubles
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/23/darth-vader-rogue-one-star-wars - James Earl Jones confirmed to voice him again
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