Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review

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In review

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→ Oh dear, oh dear!

Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 16:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support Nice and simple, would work fine. Rcsprinter (yak) 17:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - fun. benzband (talk) 17:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Labour created man himself

Last sentence of the opening paragraph of "The Part Played by Labour in the Transition from Ape to Man" (1876) by Friedrich Engels (1820–1895), first published in German in Die Neue Zeit in 1895, and in English by Progress Publishers, Moscow in 1934, and also included in Dialectics of Nature (written in 1883 and first published in Russian and German in the USSR in 1925), Chapter IX

"Labour is the source of all wealth, the political economists assert. And it really is the source — next to nature, which supplies it with the material that it converts into wealth. But it is even infinitely more than this. It is the prime basic condition for all human existence, and this to such an extent that, in a sense, we have to say that labour created man himself."

–pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - so very logical. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - yes. benzband (talk) 17:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ It's all a big fat ego scene

James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix (1942–1970), interview with Dick Cavett, The Dick Cavett Show (1969).

Dick Cavett: "Do you think music has a meaning?"

Jimi Hendrix: "Oh yeah, definitely. It's getting to be more spiritual, so, than anything. Pretty soon, I believe, that we're going to have to rely on music to, uh like, get some kind of peace of mind or satisfaction, or direction actually. More so than politics. Because politics is really an ego scene. That's the way I look at it anyway. It's all a big fat ego scene, for instance."

DC: "Ego scene?"

Jimi: "Well yeah. It's the art of words, which means nothing. So therefore you have to rely on a more of a earthier substance like music or the arts, theater, acting, painting, whatever. We want our sound to go into the soul of the audience, and see if it can awaken some little thing in their minds... Cause there are so many sleeping people. ... I wouldn't say that I'm the greatest guitarist ever. I'd say probably that I'm the greatest guitarist sitting in this chair. ... I don't really live on compliments. As a matter of fact, they have a way of distracting me. I know a whole lot of musicians, artists out there who hears the compliments and thinks 'wow, I must have been really great' and so they get fat and satisfied and they get lost and forget about their actual talent and start living in another world."

–pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:11, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support! - Brilliance. Pure brilliance. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - t'is so. benzband (talk) 17:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!

Howard Beale portrayed by Peter Finch in Network, a 1976 Academy award winning American satirical film directed by Sidney Lumet, written by Paddy Chayefsky, starring Faye Dunaway, William Holden, Peter Finch, and Robert Duvall. Howard Beale (Peter Finch) delivering his "mad as hell" speech. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - funny :D ~ benzband (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ In varietate concordia
(United in diversity)

Motto of the European Union. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support- amen. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - of course. benzband (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Some books are drenched sands,
On which a great soul's wealth lies all in heaps,
Like a wrecked argosy.

Alexander Smith (1829 or 1830-1867), A Life Drama, Scene II. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - great links! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:55, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - benzband (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Ladies and gentleman, this is your stewardess speaking. We regret any inconvenience the sudden cabin movement might have caused. This is due to periodic air pockets we encountered. There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?

~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support (moved to edit 1) - Like. Most of those links are terrific. Not sure about the last one though. I think of retired users as not working on articles. But I don't know that I have any more creative suggestions, so feel free to ignore that. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 05:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

  I was thinking that all of the crap in the links up until that, repeated over several articles, made a user decide to retire. Perhaps I made that a bit too obscure. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:18, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Ladies and gentleman, this is your stewardess speaking. We regret any inconvenience the sudden cabin movement might have caused. This is due to periodic air pockets we encountered. There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?

How about this? Otto the Autopilot 1. Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 10:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - that works! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
• Meh - I prefer my idea, but if nobody else likes it, I suppose I can be persuaded to live with this. Mine does have a somewhat depressing ending. Your "Edit" alternative was what did it, though; most certainly not your link. I would never admit that someone else picked a better link than me. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:18, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support -benzband (talk) 17:29, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ All right, Striker, you listen, and listen close. Flying a plane is no different from riding a bicycle; it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

Best I could come up with for the last link... Anyone have anythig better, or is this fine? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - I think the last link works. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - benzband (talk) 17:28, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ This is my principal objection to life, I think: It is too easy, when alive, to make perfectly horrible mistakes.

~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - possibly a better link would be one talking about actual BLP violations, rather than linking the noticeboard? PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 05:18, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

  I thought of that too, but I can't seem to find anything other than the BLP page itself. Is there a page that I am missing? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

  Apparently not. I didn't do my research. It just seems like there should have been something else. In that case, I support the motto as is. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 04:48, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

  I agree, but whatever. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• What about Wikipedia:BLP problem? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:10, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

  Of course! That's exactly what I was looking for! Definitely think that would be better on the last link. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:59, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

  I won't bother with a new nomination. ~~ Hi878 isn't home. ^{(Can I take a message?)} 22:04, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ So it goes.

~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - makes so much sense. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 05:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

→ "Poo-Tee-Weet?"

This one might be kind of depressing for people who get it. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• And kind of nonsensical for people who don't get it. Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 21:07, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

  What about the one that now resides in your signature? :) I believe we did two of those. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:09, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

→ I'm a doctor, not an escalator!

Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 17:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose - Although I like the quoe, the link seems a little weird. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 17:50, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

  The new link seems even weirder. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 18:14, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Why would a guy wanna marry a guy?
Security!

Joe (Tony Curtis) and Jerry (Jack Lemmon) in Some Like It Hot (1958) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose - It seems like the second link should be in the spot of the first; I have no idea what the second link would be, though. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:26, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: if we rely on the titles only, then you are right. But, the first link points to the new user(s) registration form, while the second link explains the benefits of creating an account. Imho, they are placed correctly. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
    • Yes, but it seems like we would want the links to make sense within the context of the quote. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 16:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - Benzband (talk) 18:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - Not showing your IP address seems like good security to me. (p.s. lol) — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 11:58, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

 Reopened - no consensus. Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 11:01, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

→ By adversity are wrought
The greatest work of admiration,
And all the fair examples of renown
Out of distress and misery are grown.

Samuel Daniel (1562–1619), The Earl of Southampton. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support. ~ Benzband (talk) 17:10, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose - I'm not sure about the "distress" link. Featured content comes from editors thinking of leaving the project? Sometimes, maybe, but I think it usually comes from contented editors... It's interesting to see the historical link, but there must be one that works better with the rest of the motto. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 12:15, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Maybe make the last two links something to do with reviewing articles? WP:PR, WP:GAC, or WP:FAC? — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 12:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
    • I was thinking that a good article comes from hard work, and that a lot of work equally produces a lot of distress. I also think that the "poorly written articles" thingY explains itself. 99% of the articles on the English Wikipedia, inluding most FAs, started as short articles (stubs). WP:STUB is an alternative link for the latter. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

 Reopened - no consensus. Simply south...... "time, department skies" for 5 years 11:01, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The greater the power, the dangerous the abuse.

I found this in a book I purchased 2 years ago,I thought that it will make a good motto. That's me! ^{Have doubt?} Track me! 11:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose - It feels like it needs something; I have an idea. Welcome to the project, and I hope you decide to stick around! ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose - In favor of Edit 2. benzband (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
  • BTW, what is the book? - benzband (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
    • Wow... Didn't even notice that. :) I'll try and find it. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 17:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The greater the power, the dangerous the abuse.

Edit 1 - All I could come up with off the top of my head. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - Yep, this is better. benzband (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support + Note: "The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse" is a quote by Irish author and philosopher, Edmund Burke (1729–1797), who was a member of the House of Commons of the British Parliament. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn’t every war fought between men, between brothers?

If anybody finds a link for the middle parts please edit. - Benzband in public (talk) 21:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - It seems good the way it is. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:26, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
• OpposeToo lengthy motto.That's me! ^{Have doubt?} Track me! 11:17, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

  We've had mottos much longer than this one, actually. We even have several heading towards passing that are open right now. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 22:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

• Support - Very good. Simple, but perfectly applicable. Definitely not too long. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 05:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
• I like this sentence, he was one of the greatest personalities of literature and of human thought who was always on the side of the poorest, but Wikipedia:Edit warring and Wikipedia:Wikipedians are both used twice. "[B]rothers" could be something like "WP:COMMUNITY", and Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars could be an alternative for one of the two (WAR) links. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Suum cuique
("To each his own")

A Latin motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm not sure I get this one. Why would "to each his own" have anything to do with "righting great wrongs"? I don't quite see it. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 12:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
  • First of all, I would like to thank you, Mr. Stradivarius, for taking the time to "look" at MotD because we are in need again. The last approved motto is scheduled for the 27th of November, and I was/am going to approve nominations without enough discussion... and you know that it ain't no good.
    About this nomination: this is an old principle of justice. There is a longer and more complete version made by Cicero: "Iustitia suum cuique distribuit." ("Justice renders to everyone his due.") from his philosophical dialogue De Natura Deorum ("On the Nature of the Gods"; 45 BC), a book that was called by Voltaire as the best book of all antiquity. "Philosophy" apart, I used WP:RGW because sometimes the opposites converge, which is another philosophical, but also in mathematics, theory, but I do not know if this is the case or not. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
• Support - Because you shouldn't promote your own personal views on Wikipedia. Read WP:RGW in detail i think you might get what i mean. Benzband (talk) 17:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose - I agree with Mr. Stradivarius; it seems like this and the page have opposite views. Yes, I did read it, Benzband. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)