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The article was archived by FrB.TG via FACBot (talk) 29 January 2024 [1].

2022 Tour de France Femmes

Nominator(s): Turini2 (talk) 10:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first edition of the Tour de France Femmes (a cycling race) - held in 2022 after years of campaigning for a women's Tour de France race. This is my first FAC, it's a GA and has been through the WP:GOCE process. Wish me luck, I'm looking forward to this. Turini2 (talk) 10:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Airship

As always in my reviews, these are recommendations, not demands; feel free to refuse with justifications. Welcome to FAC, and best of luck.

Lead

The first paragraph notes "[it] followed years of campaigning by the women's professional peloton for an equivalent race to the men's Tour de France." Per WP:LEAD, the opening paragraph should define the topic. If the years of campaigning were important enough to highlight in the first paragraph (or indeed elsewhere in the lead) I would think that adding a "Background" subsection to the body would help.
- I'm thinking a two paragraph summary of Tour de France Femmes#Historic French races and the first paragraph of the following section.

I don't quite get the organisation of the lead, with the focus on van Vleuten's race from start to finish coming before anything else. It seems much more logical to me to follow the whole of the race chronologically, especially as it had "only" eight stages. As it is, the person who led three-quarters of the race is only mentioned in the third paragraph.
You may also want to summarize the "Route and stages" section, otherwise sentences like "She was able to recover as the race reached the mountains" mean nothing to the casual reader—what mountains? how far into the race was this? etc.
I think you could trim your use of the jersey metonyms: "moving into the yellow jersey in the process" is only vaguely grammatically correct (surely "taking the yellow jersey" is better, but also just "taking the lead" [if you want, "...of the general classification"]?); "...won the green jersey for points classification" is essentially saying the same thing twice. The three other stage winners are surely also worthy of a lead mention, particularly Lorena Wiebes who won two?
- Try and focus on concision. Look at other FA-class cycling articles, e.g. 2012 Tour de France.

Body

I'm fairly sure you don't capitalise both words in "The Netherlands".
- 20% of 144 is not a whole number of people. Better to just say the number of riders.
The "Route and stages" section can be specific about each individual stage in the prose. What stages are in the "Champagne vineyards" (unnecessarily poetic imo), where do the stages in the Vosges begin, and is the summit finish still in the Vosges?
"Campaigners such as Kathryn Bertine also welcomed the route." since Bertine's welcome also appears to be due to the variety of stages, you could merge with the previous sentence à la "The variety of stages was welcomed by riders in the professional peloton and by campaigners such as Kathryn Bertine", for example.
In general, parentheses in the article (when not containing team names/acronyms/etc.) would be better as commas.
Gerritse winning the QoM classification in stage 3 is not in the cited sources.

Will continue. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airship ? Gog the Mild (talk) 00:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator doesn't appear to have made any edits to the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:37, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was waiting for you to finish sorry! You said "Will continue" and I thought I would wait until you were done. Very happy to get going on this! Turini2 (talk) 11:01, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, my bad. Tbh, the rest of the article is rather high-quality, especially the "Results and reception" subsection (the "Mountain stages" subsection is perhaps just a touch too detailed), so I'll have a quick run-through after you've addressed the comments above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

The map in the infobox - what is the source of the information on it? Gog the Mild (talk) 00:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was requested at Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop/Archive/Jun_2022#Tour de France Femmes 2022 using the official map as a base to create a free version. Does it need a source? Turini2 (talk) 11:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does, like any information on Wikipedia :-) . Eg see the Source section of the Details page of a map I recently commissioned: File:Battle of the Trebia, opening manoeuvres.png. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed! Hope that's okay, happy to tweak as required. Turini2 (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That looks fine. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note

This has been open for more than four weeks and has yet to pick up a support. Unless it attracts considerable movement towards a consensus to promote over the next two or three days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, nothing has happened since Gog's last note so I'll be archiving this shortly. FrB.TG (talk) 08:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. FrB.TG (talk) 08:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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