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Super Bowl XLIX page

Noticed notes were taken out for the team introductions. Are the notes for the songs anywhere else on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Seriously?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Super Bowl pages

If an edit has a reference than it can stay on a page and not get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Americanhero24 (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2015 (UTC) Americanhero24

Everything in WP needs to be verifiable, but not everything that is true necessarily should be added. Articles must be balanced according to its weight in sources, and should not be overloaded with trivial facts. I assume your question is in regards to mention of the teams' entrance music? May I suggest starting a discussion at WT:NFL to see if there is consensus for its inclusion. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Ray Allen

Hey. Could Ray Allen have another round of semi-protection? As soon as the last expired in January, there have been no useful edits i.e. from January 8 when a bot removed the semi template, to now, all reverts. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Y—Bagumba (talk) 19:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Dean Smith

As an admin could you help get Smith on the front page under "notable deaths?" Seems like we always miss out on getting big basketball figures up there when they die. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 15:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

It's gonna take more than the current 2 !votes it has.—Bagumba (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Looks like the news of his death made the Wikipedia main page after all. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but I don't usually concern myself with the politics of the front page or "in the news." BTW, where does one "vote" on such things? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:ITNC. I mostly stay out myself. Somewhat predictably, recent deaths gets into editors in other countries voting "no" because they never heard of someone.—Bagumba (talk) 22:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Pending changes

Is there an expiration on Andrew Wiggins' PC? - Bossanoven (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Protection policy, current protections can be found at Special:Log/protect. You can also go to any page's history and click on "View logs for this page" near top of the page under it's title.—Bagumba (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your help; I assume it means indefinitely, then, given that it neither states "indefinitely" nor a fixed duration. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Was that your original question? Yes, it appears to be indef.—Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, it is what I was asking. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. Maybe you should have asked: "The page logs say 'configured pending changes settings for Andrew Wiggins [Auto-accept: require "autoconfirmed" permission] (Persistent vandalism)', but doesn't list a date. When does it expire?" :-)—Bagumba (talk) 04:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Carl Lewis

I'll bite, should I make an NBA infobox for Carl Lewis? - Bossanoven (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

What would be your rationale?—Bagumba (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

He was drafted by the Chicago Bulls in the 1984 draft. Ergo, he technically could have an infobox. Of course, he technically could have an NFL infobox as well. Hmm, he never played high school or college hoops. OK, OK, I guess this was a waste of time question. I should have read that part first. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Example farm

What's that? I saw you make these edits at basketball position pages. Was wondering what it is thanks. Still learning stuff. --DangerousJXD (talk) 22:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: (if this thread continues, I'll assume you have this watchlisted for any further responses) Articles are better if they describe a concept instead of just listing examples of it. For those not familiar with basketball or the NBA, the names are pretty meaningless. Also, once there are a few examples, it's just an open invitation for everyone to indiscriminately add their favorite missing player. There is a place for notable lists in Wikipedia to enumerate items, but it shouldn't be the primary means to explain things.—Bagumba (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Example cruft.—Bagumba (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Threepeat

Thought you might like to know that we have an article on threepeat, though it is true that it would not appear to be found in a hard-bound dictionary. Happy editing. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:38, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

No point making a non-sports reader having to click on a term any more than is needed.—Bagumba (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, it seems like a fairly appropriate use of the link, but have as you will. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:LINKSTYLE: "Do not unnecessarily make a reader chase links: if a highly technical term can be simply explained with very few words, do so. Also use a link, but do not make a reader be forced to use that link to understand the sentence, especially if this requires going into nested links (a link that goes to a page with another technical term needed to be linked, which goes to a page with a link to another technical term, and so on). Don't assume that readers will be able to access a link at all, as, for example, they might have printed an article and be reading the hard copy on paper."—Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Have you read all of the help pages? Is that a prerequisite of becoming an admin? - Bossanoven (talk) 03:02, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

No, and it depends. It mostly comes from other's edit warring lol. And why reinvent what some smart person has already written.—Bagumba (talk) 03:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

lol. happy editing. - Bossanoven (talk) 03:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey again

On Whiteside's page, I will try and find a source. I assure you, that info is true, during the Heat game few hours ago, the play by play commentator said exactly that. Also another media person said the same thing another time. So it is 100% true. If I can't find a reference, I think it should still be there. --DangerousJXD (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: Per WP:V: "Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." Editors besides yourself need to be able to verify this if they choose to. Commentators are difficult because sometime they misspeak; this is less likely to happen with a reliable printed source, where they have more time to double check and proofread. At any rate, video or audio usually requires that it is accessible and a timestamp is made available i.e. you can't expect someone to re-watch a 2:30 game to find one fact.—Bagumba (talk) 04:42, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

How is it now? --DangerousJXD (talk) 04:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: I suggest you re-read he source. I think you oversimplified the "fourth" and "second" player statements from what the source actually says.—Bagumba (talk) 04:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

So I should...? --DangerousJXD (talk) 05:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Reread what you wrote against what the article said. It's not entirely accurate. If you think it is correct, perhaps you can provide me the specific quote that support what you wrote. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 05:11, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

How bout now? If it's not right, why don't you just fix it? --DangerousJXD (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: I'll trust that you were more thorough. Don't worry, we all make honest errors; however, nobody want to become "that one" that causes others to roll their eyes when they show up on their watchlist :-) —Bagumba (talk) 05:33, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Sweet Mary

Bags, this stuff is enough to make an angel use profanity: [1]. How hard is it to comprehend the concept of "sporting nationality," i.e., the country for which an athlete competes and/or represents in international competition. That's a rhetorical question, of course. Of the two objecting editors, Hammersoft is by far the more reasonable and subtle of the two, and I would go a long way to accommodate his concerns in the article's main body text and/or lead. Personally, I think the article already does an excellent job of describing Franklin's Canadian origins and her dual citizenship, but I am receptive to changing or expanding the existing text on point. In contrast to Hammer, the other editor has a clear POV agenda regarding Canadian (and Puerto Rican) nationality on Wikipedia (and has been previously blocked for pushing it contrary to consensus), and will not be satisfied until the subject is identified as a Canadian-American swimmer (or the like) in the lead and a Canadian flag icon is displayed in the infobox, both of which are extremely misleading in the context of Franklin's membership of the U.S. national swim team and her chosen sporting nationality. This was hotly discussed on the talk page in the aftermath of the 2012 Olympics, but it is apparent that most of the original discussion participants have either grown weary of the argument or no longer have the page watch-listed.

FYI, I believe we are being completely consistent in how we have handled Franklin's sporting nationality when compared to other U.S. and foreign swimmers and other athletes who hold dual citizenship, including the two examples discussed on the talk page. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

The success rate winning over POVers will always be minimal. However, these issues raised by Hammersoft before are fixable.—Bagumba (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hammer's trying to fight two issues at the same time: (1) the treatment of Franklin's dual citizenship; and (2) flag icons for sporting nationality of national team members, etc. He'll couch both concerns in terms of (1), but he also has a problem with (2). I'm willing to accommodate him in terms of lead and text, and I will even go so far as to add an explanatory footnote for her sporting nationality in the infobox, but the flag icon needs to stay as the symbol of her national team membership and sporting nationality. the idea that we're trying to hide, denigrate, or degrade her Canadian dual citizenship is, well, pick your own characterization of that argument. I'm certainly not trying to do that -- are you? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:25, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Are you asking if I like round bacon?—Bagumba (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, something like that. LOL Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:34, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Jeremy Lin

Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive217#Jeremy Lin. GiantSnowman 10:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Lookin' for an admin

Sorry, to bother you, but any chance you would block a very active IP vandal? I reported it on ARV but non one is at home there. Thanks. —Noah 16:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone just put in the block. Cheers, —Noah 16:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

so...

Generally speaking, are there any other active admins on here in WikiProject NBA? - Bossanoven (talk) 06:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

This first question is a separate one. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

They are around. I don't pay attention too much since I usually don't need one. You can always go to noticeboards.—Bagumba (talk) 17:41, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I think if you were to review DangerousJXD's edit summaries and take them as a whole, you would come to the conclusion that they need some improvement. Examples:

• "Crap."
• "I am so proud of myself."
• "What wonderful spelling by myself."
• "...gay" - Bossanoven (talk) 09:50, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I will assume you asking for administrative attention. As a general rule of mine, unless it is something egregious, I expect editors to first attempt to resolve conduct disputes with the concerned parties directly before seeking my direct attention. Please assume good faith. As far as your last bullet item, it's dangerous to take a single word out of context. I suggest you look at the specific diff with the edit summary. If you want another administrator's opinion, feel free to take this to WP:ANI. You can also refer to WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE for more details. —Bagumba (talk) 19:11, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Block

Hey. This user really needs a block. It's getting stupid now. They are going to keep vandalising Greg Smith with this leniency. DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protect

Hey. Could List of 2014–15 NBA season transactions please be semi protected. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I instead blocked one of the editors, who was a repeat violator.—Bagumba (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Page protection

Could you please protect Jimmy Butler (basketball)? I would have asked at RPP, but I can't get the page to load for some reason. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:18, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Y 2 weeks.—Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Is everything mellow? - Bossanoven (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know about this Special:Contributions/ViLar fellow. He changed Amar'e Stoudemire's height without sourcing it. - Bossanoven (talk) 19:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Tobias Harris, please. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Someone else got to it.—Bagumba (talk) 17:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I'd suggest locking Goran Dragic. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll monitor it. I'm usually not a big fan of full protection in these cases.—Bagumba (talk) 00:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Good to know. Looks like the trade has been completed now. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Exactly

"WP:IBX encourages keeping infobxes as small as possible. 'When considering any aspect of infobox design, keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts that appear in the article. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.' Too often fields are added in an infobox to compensate for laziness in finding the proper location in prose."

Every once in a while another editor makes a point so perfectly that there is nothing left to say. The paragraph above should be quoted at the top of every future discussion of sport infoboxes. Amen. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Question

Are users generally expected to respond to reasonable questions on their own talk pages? I thought this might be here, but the English is a little ambiguous. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC) I ask because there is an editor who has ignored my question for nigh on a week whilst editing away. - Bossanoven (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. Can you be more specific?—Bagumba (talk) 21:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Are users allowed to ignore questions on their user talk pages which regard encyclopedic content they have added (while continuing to edit for the foreseeable future)? - Bossanoven (talk) 21:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:AGF. WP is WP:NOTCOMPULSORY, and response time will vary. As in real life, sometimes people forget too. In some cases, you can assume WP:SILENCE as a form of consensus.—Bagumba (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Your name

Bagumba, I have been wondering, where are the syllable separations in your name? - Bossanoven (talk) 21:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Google and find related Gilligan's Island video.—Bagumba (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Good. I had the pronunciation right. Does it stem from a language? I watched the show in the past but do not recall its intricacies. - Bossanoven (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Head hunters, IIRC. Likely as real as klingon.—Bagumba (talk) 21:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Fresh username here for you to block when you have time, I thought about being lenient, but I suppose we have to set an example with such names: Special:Contributions/Jabariparker12. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC) By the way, sorry to not inform you, I am not allowed to report these to UAA right now.

• Special:Contributions/LEBRONJAMES21
  • I took care of these two. Generally, I'm not too interested in patrolling this area. I'll take reports about names matching NBA people verbatim. The numbers are subjective if they are not the player's number, but I'll leave the block I already made. The user can appeal it, and it looks like a throwaway acct anyways.—Bagumba (talk) 03:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

What does the phrase "pulu see bagumba" mean? - Bossanoven (talk) 08:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I am referring to the YouTube link that resulted from the aforementioned Google search. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Dunno. It's fiction.—Bagumba (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Roster pages templates

Mmmh, hi! Just to tell you that Schnaffyduck and 193.49.199.31 (probably the same guy) are vandalizing the NBA roster pages, by trying to pigeonhole the players positions (turning them into PG, SG, SF, PF, C, which in today's NBA, with players playing multiple positions all the time and all) and doing unnecessary redirects (like turning Chris Kaman into Christopher Kaman and Manu Ginobili into Emanuel Ginobili) without really stating a reason. Anyway, just to give you a heads up before we have a potential edit war. Have a nice day! Intruder007 (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@Intruder007: I've left a note at Schnaffyduck's talk page to get consensus, and warned about edit warring. I'd advise you to seek dispute resolution as well at WT:NBA, or just leave me a note if edit warring persists. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 23:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to you. Intruder007 (talk) 23:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Jae Crowder semi-protect

Following this, the classic "death" vandalism probably won't stop on Jae Crowder for a while... DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:10, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Y So original.—Bagumba (talk) 20:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Award 4 U

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awarded to Bagumba for being part of the 25,000 Edit Club
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Wikipedia email re Newspapers.com signup

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DYK for Splash Brothers

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NFL schedule boxes

I saw your comment on the NFL project page. I'm fairly new to this and I'm trying to learn as much as I can from experienced editors such as you. When I looked at every team's schedule box for 2013, they use the color scheme of the former rather than the latter style in question. What is your perspective on consistency in format throughout the NFL pages when considering your comment on more minimal use of color? RaysRates (talk) 05:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing this, and welcome to Wikipedia. An argument you may have seen already in your time here is WP:OTHERSTUFF. Basically, it means you might see other articles do things one way, but it's more convincing if the reasons why they are doing it that way have merit. Precedent has its place, but don't follow it blindly unless it makes sense. If there is a "right" way, I'd rather it be inconsistently done right (and slowly fixed) than consistently done "wrong".—Bagumba (talk) 05:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Bagumba, WP:NFL has always handled major formatting issues by consensus, and I have taken a fair amount of time to compile stats regarding existing uses of shading in season record tables in NFL articles and for other major sports on Wikipedia (see [2]). Before you send two editors off to begin changing hundreds of single-season articles for NFL teams contrary to established practice based on your perceived "right way" interpretation of MOS:COLOR and shading of season schedule tables, I ask that you review what I have compiled on the WP:NFL talk page. Even if you are "right," I do not believe this is the correct way to proceed in the face of clearly established existing consensus across hundreds of NFL team articles, and thousands of sports articles generally, and will inevitably lead to unnecessary reversions and edit-warring. Please consider formulating a proper RfC for your proposed changes so that WP:NFL members and others can have a say, and not create unnecessary inconsistency, conflict and chaos across our articles. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

"Before you send two editors off ...": Dirtlawyer1, you overestimate any impact I may have. My opinion was solicited on my talk page, and I responded. I am not canvassing, and I am not ordering anyone. Wikipedia is WP:NOTCOMPULSORY. I am not sure if you were expecting that I give a Consensus 101 lecture first, but my assumption is always that consensus is followed. Discussions against past consensus are not inherently problematic, as consensus can change.—Bagumba (talk) 17:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Bags, given the strength of existing precedent and the long-term, stable consensus established by remarkably consistent use across literally thousands of sports articles and 6 or 7 different sports WikiProjects, yes, I might have expected that you would sound a cautionary note about consensus, rather than make moderately dismissive comments about OTHERSTUFF, the "right way," and fixing it. Those comments imply your endorsement. Whether MOS:COLOR applies in these circumstances, in the way you suggest, remains to be determined because there are no widely-discussed precedents directly on point. Your interpretation may be right, it may be unsupported and without precedent, or it may be that a new consensus is ready to form around the idea for no reason other than a majority thinks it looks better. As I said on the WP:NFL talk page, I am not opposed to change, but I strongly believe the first step in legitimating any such wide-ranging change is to start a wide-ranging discussion with the editors who implement the existing consensus. That doesn't happen on the basis of a 24-hour 3-to-2 talk page discussion. User:Seattle made a change, another editor reverted and cited existing consensus; Seattle rightly brought it to the widest forum that applies (WP:NFL). If we're serious about the proposed change, let's get some input from significantly more than a handful of experienced editors and let's try to convince them that this is the "right" thing to do in a structured RfC discussion, from which we can get a hand count at the conclusion. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

DL: I'm not sure what your point is, though I assume you mean well. I was asked my opinion on my talk page; I wasn't asked to assess current consensus. I did not encourage anarchy. I have made zero edits on any non-talk page namespace in relation to this current discussion. If you or others feel that there is a dispute on others' edits regarding the schedule, certainly WP:DR offers RfC as an avenue to pursue should the existing WT:NFL thread be deemed inconclusive. If you are asking that I reconsider my opinion on the schedule format, you can continue that discussion at the relevant thread on WT:NFL. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 18:46, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Bags, I'm not suggesting you did any of those things. What I thought I was rather clear about, and what leaves a lot of room for interpretation by editors without a strong understanding of the existing practice and the best ways to change it, is that you green-lighted the editor(s) wanting to make the shading changes in your talk page comments. Whether you realize it or not, as an administrator and a regular participant in WikiProject talk, your voice carries, and that was all Seattle needed to hear before implementing his changes. My take-away from the two talk page discussions is that none of the participants knew just how prevalent the existing standard practice regarding schedule shading is. My point is that, given the wide-ranging and currently consistent use of shading in this context, both within WP:NFL and across 6 or 7 different sports WikiProjects, that any such changes should be discussed and present consensus determined by something substantially more than the decidedly mixed feedback of 5 editors in a 24-hour talk page discussion without any form of notice to the dozens of others who may be concerned. It's a process/procedural objection. Again, I am not opposed to changes, and if change to current shading practices happens by sound consensus, I'll support it. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

DL: I think we are going to philosophically disagree here. Saying I "green-lighted the editor(s) ..." is again continuing a fallacy of some authority that I neither have as either a solo editor, nor even as an administrator. We operate on consensus. That aside, I am not aware of any edit warring that has occurred since Seattle began the thread at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#Dispute_over_schedule_layout. Note that RaysRates started this thread after that WT:NFL thread. I neither have the authority to "green light" any action, nor am I aware that any editor misinterpreted any comment as a "green light". Finally, I personally dont encourage "procedural" objections. It discourages bold edits and creates a larger bureaucracy. If someone objects because Wikipedia would be arguably worse off, I believe someone will eventually revert and BRD process will follow. My philosophy is to do the "right thing" now, ask for forgiveness if need be later. That also seems consistent with BRD as well.—Bagumba (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

You know that I...

...add pictures to articles (because you left a message on my talk page one time) so I thought I would come ask you this. Is there a place I can go to find articles that need pictures added? Mostly NBA players but about anything really. I do enjoy the process of adding pictures. Thanks. —DangerousJXD (talk) 23:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: I was able to dig up a couple of things. For NBA people, Category:NBA articles needing images has articles where {{WikiProject National Basketball Association}} has "imageneeded=yes". For general basketball articles, Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of basketball people has articles where {{Image requested}} was used with a tag for basketball people. Not sure how up-to-date these are, or if anyone is actively tagging articles. If you are inclined, you could try to coordinate a campaign on WP:NBA and see if there is interest.—Bagumba (talk) 23:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Robinson (basketball)

Can we protect this one? Reports are he will sign with the Nets, but he can't do it til he clears waivers tomorrow after 5. Rikster2 (talk) 02:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Y—Bagumba (talk) 02:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

LOL. In case you ever need fodder to stop premature edits - the 76ers (not the Nets) signed Robinson. Since the Sixers had a worse record they had priority on the waiver wire. Rikster2 (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Everytime I see editors replace team with "Free agent" in infoboxes, I always think, "No, he's technically on waivers". Oh well, I have no interest in being pedantic about it; already waste too much time caring about official announcements.—Bagumba (talk) 00:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Slam Dunk Contest

I added a reference, per your comments. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.142.22 (talk) 03:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Also, if you think we should include a reference for all of the scores for the individual dunks, we could use the following link: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2343056-nba-slam-dunk-contest-2015-winner-highlights-scores-and-twitter-reaction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.142.22 (talk) 03:27, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

The source that was already in the article from NBA.com had Oladipo down for 75 in the final round, but your edit looks correct. That's the reason I was questioning your reference for your original edit. Thanks for the update.—Bagumba (talk) 06:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem. 76.108.142.22 (talk) 04:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

2015 NBA All-Star Game

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 01:20, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

@George Ho: Most the edits have seen productive. The one I reverted a couple of times for being unsourced, actually was an error in the existing ref for the dunk contest. Current PC lasts until March 1. I'm open to being convinced more is needed.—Bagumba (talk) 01:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject members

"I just imagine those 90% that you estimate have, for various reasons, consciously avoided the project talk page."

Yeah, and sometimes I consciously avoid most discussions on the talk page of several of the WikiProjects of which I am a member, too. Depends on the project and my depth of interest and involvement. Sometimes it's because the depth of minutiae bores me to tears. Most WP members show up when they have a concern of their own, or when they need a third-party opinion. That being said, I've found that most WP members like to be asked to participate from time to time, and it makes everyone feel like they are part of something. It also eliminates virtually all of the resistance to change when everyone has had a fair opportunity to speak their peace, even if it didn't go their way. Asking everyone for their opinion leads to very stable, long-term consensuses. It's tough to bitch after the fact when you were invited to participate and chose not to. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

"It's tough to bitch ...": Maybe tough, certainly not impossible.—Bagumba (talk) 03:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, yeah, true. But other people tend to remind them that they had their chance -- often to great effect. LOL Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TyrusThomas4lyf

Can you do me a favour, can you have a quick look at the histories of all parties (except yourself, obviously) engaged in this? A quick look might give some surprising results. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

@Richhoncho: That SPI has been anything but "quick" up until now. I don't doubt there is more I maybe missing. Perhaps you can be more direct in what you may be suspecting? Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 17:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

--There are 3 users, the nominator, whose account was created the same day as the nomination, Archwayh who just happens to use Hoops Gza/Bossanoven info boxes on their first edit of their user page. Coincidence? Bossanoven who does not answer the accusation, because, perhaps, he would be talking to himself. Of course I could be wrong, which is why I didn't want to give too much away on my post here. Cheers. You are on my watchlist for the moment. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Would need more behavioral evidence to proceed, as there is possibility for other explanations as well. Perhaps checkuser will help. Let me know if you find more evidence.—Bagumba (talk) 18:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

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Just wanted to say something.

Cool. --DangerousJXD (talk) 06:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I disagree

I disagree with you about not putting in links. Maybe I am heavy on them, but others say where is the link?

And yes I had to do the homework, and ge told off for saying "do your homework", not by you but other editors too. Do it then. Since you patently know it all, why not say to the less knowledgeable, here is where I found it and this is a reliable source?

And I thank you sincerely for your contributions on articles and on making WP better. It is WP:NOTFINISHED and WP:NOTPERFECT. But you are making it better, and

I thank you

Sincerely

Si Trew (talk) 07:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@SimonTrew: Ironic the subject is links, as it took me a while to figure out you were referring to Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_February_25#Baracketology. I trust the both of us are here to improve things, but with slightly different ways of going about it. That really was the first time I've recalled being critiqued for 1) providing bare links as opposed to full citations on talk pages, and 2) not providing the quoted passage that supported my point. While I can see your method is more thorough, it is also contrary to the common practice I have seen in discussions which I have participated. Most articles, let alone discussions, are lucky to have full citations, and it's even less common to see quotations in the footnotes. If our paths cross in the future, feel free to nudge me for clarification if you feel my arguments are insufficient in attributions. Happy editing.—Bagumba (talk) 08:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

We certainly are here to improve things, both thee and I, and I thank you for doing so. My wife is very ill so I perhaps am not at my best, I am nursing here, which is not my profession. Keep saying she needs a doctor but she won't. Si Trew (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@SimonTrew: Hope she is feeling better soon. Take care.—Bagumba (talk) 19:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. She and I have done most of the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 and tidied that and added pics etc. We are just not at our best right now. Thank you for understanding. Si Trew (talk) 20:02, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Jordan Clarkson

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 09:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Y PC for another year.—Bagumba (talk) 23:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Should 300 SB convert to 600 SB?

This and a google search seems to indicate notability of the 600 SB club. Perhaps this article should be changed to 600 SB. What do you think? Sportsguy17 (T • C) 02:15, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Sportsguy17: I'm wary of blogs, unless they can be shown to be WP:RS. But I guess you can see if the book referred to exists (and not self published)? At any rate, it's just one source. Maybe others at Talk:List of Major League Baseball players with 300 career stolen bases might have more ideas?—Bagumba (talk) 02:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

No one has replied yet on the page. Is there a way to notify or ping a WikiProject to attract editorial attention to the discussion? Sportsguy17 (T • C) 21:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@Sportsguy17: Perhaps like me, they were waiting for you to "pull up some links once I'm back at my computer" like you previous stated. For notification, you could just go to WT:BASEBALL and leave a notice.—Bagumba (talk) 21:07, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Links have been posted, will leave a notice at WT:BASEBALL shortly. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 22:57, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK review

Hi Bagumba, perhaps there was a technical problem with my ping, but I've tried to fix up the Template:Did you know nominations/WrestleMania XXX DYK already, hope you can check it out when you're free! starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 08:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

@Starship.paint: It was on my to-do list. Thanks for the nudge, I've left comments there.—Bagumba (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi. Do you mind coming back to this review? It hasn't received a comment in almost a month. Thanks. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: I updated with my latest comments. Sometimes I leave Template:DYK?again on my own DYKs to (hopefully) prevent it from becoming too stale.—Bagumba (talk) 19:53, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Vandal (?)

Bags, please keep an eye on this guy: [3]. It appears that he is making random changes to game and season stats in basketball bios that are contradicted by reliable sources. When a red-link newbie is making fast edits like this, without providing sources, it raises eyebrows. I have already reverted the changes to the Joakim Noah article, but his other recent edits should be scrutinized. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for being vigilant. Undid some of the edits, and gave them a kind welcome/warning. Initial warnings to new users are helpful. It makes it easier to take swift action when they've already been given a second chance and AGF has been exhausted.—Bagumba (talk) 19:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Understood and agreed. It would not be the first time that I have seen someone make edits for the purposes of testing the system and seeing if anyone is actually watching. that's relatively harmless. When it's a "newbie" with the user name "Wikikinggg123," editing from a mobile phone, I'm a little more suspicious than usual that it's not the first registered account for this customer. Call me cynical, but I don't believe that AGF is a suicide pact. Cheers, Old Man. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Depending on the circumstances, I don't always give the benefit of a warning before blocking. All I'm saying is a warning starts the clock ticking, and you are anyways waiting, and its easier (though not necessary) to label a WP:VOA with a warning in place.—Bagumba (talk) 20:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

User:Wkoppel and likely sock

IP 64.134.98.168 has begun editing Big 10 pages this afternoon, the same sorts of edits as Wkoppel (small changes to numbers / tables; all unsourced) and with the same kinds of edit summaries (idiosyncratically all beginning with "I") - I'd lay money on the identity but am not sure there's enough here for a SSI report. Your thoughts / advice welcome. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 23:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@JohnInDC: Blocked as a WP:DUCK. Thanks for being observant.—Bagumba (talk) 01:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure. Thanks for the quick action. JohnInDC (talk) 02:05, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

New one to check: Special:Contributions/68.66.31.117 - Bossanoven (talk) 02:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC) I rolled back all of the edits. Could you please explain why you did not do a massrollback? - Bossanoven (talk) 02:15, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

That's the IP he edited from before he registered an account - you'll see entries I made on his talk page back in 2013 or so. He is certainly persistent. JohnInDC (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Y Blocked.—Bagumba (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: I usually don't automatically revert socks unless it is obvious vandalism or other specific reasons. Plus others have said this editor is generally productive, and there are others reviewing these articles too.—Bagumba (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Two more: 68.32.138.100 and 2601:4:5400:77A:5488:33D:9515:60CA. JohnInDC (talk) 12:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

And another - 2601:4:5400:77A:7404:A416:FACD:2DDC. JohnInDC (talk) 03:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Blocked. Let me know if they continuing floating around.—Bagumba (talk) 08:17, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Now 2601:4:5400:77A:B9E5:931C:1E77:22A0. He's hopping around a lot - JohnInDC (talk) 12:05, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Hasn't seemed to come back to this IP.—Bagumba (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree - it's been a couple of days now. JohnInDC (talk) 02:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Here's an active one: Special:Contributions/96.36.31.100. JohnInDC (talk) 02:21, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Y—Bagumba (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Conference basketball season pages

Hey, I saw you have been actively editing a college basketball conference season page, so please see this discussion here so we can get a consensus of editors. While this discussion is specifically on the SEC page, it concerns all conferences' pages. Jhn31 (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Roy Hibbert

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 03:25, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Y Reset for another 3 mos.—Bagumba (talk) 04:51, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:Infobox NFL player rv

An infobox label is just a <th> with scope="row" (which I forgot to add). I'm not asking you to rv, BTW; I was just trying to accommodate Dirtlawyer1. Alakzi (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: My bad. Using "label" makes for more maintainable/readable encoding, if nothing else :-) DL did say "FYI, the height and weight should be on separate lines regardless of what we do here" on 17:19, 21 March 2015. At any rate, I greatly appreciate your help. I tend to edit with WP:BRD in mind, but I understand as a template editor you are sometimes placed by projects between a rock and a hard place.—Bagumba (talk) 17:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Right, I thought he'd said the opposite; I think I've got a little too much on my plate! I agree, using "label" is better. I've not got the TE bit yet, so just a "template editor". ;-) Anyway, thanks. Alakzi (talk) 18:37, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: Made me curious what the requirements were. I guess you only have roughly 7 months to go.—Bagumba (talk) 23:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, it is a "guideline"—but I'd still rather not ask. I don't wish to be turned down because somebody feels that they can't trust me; I don't see how that'd be pleasant for me, or for them. Alakzi (talk) 00:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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UCLA colors at the Module

Hey Bagumba. I just wanted to let you know that I have decided to revert my edit at the Module until a consensus can be determined. I feel it is necessary until we can determine what the actual hex code is. I'm still looking around the Internet about this, which is why I've been silent in this for the past couple of days. It might get down to the point where we might have to email the UCLA marketing/athletics dept. and see if they can give us the actual codes for the colors and clarify the colors. It's just a thought. Corky | Chat? 13:31, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan: I had inquired at brand.ucla.edu a couple days back, and still waiting for a response.—Bagumba (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. Corky | Chat? 18:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan:Haven't heard anything back from school. For now, I just the script logo used by athletics at http://brand.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ucla-script-main-31.jpg and used DigitalColor Meter to determine the blue used.—Bagumba (talk) 09:56, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Bagumba, that works for me! I was wondering if you had heard back from them or not. Corky | Chat? 14:21, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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Pablo Prigioni

Hey. Could Pablo Prigioni please be semi-protected? Lots of vandalism recently. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Editing is kinda light, so I applied pending changes only. If any of those editors do a repeat vandal edit, let me know or follow up at WP:AIV. We can bump up to semi-protect if this proves to be more persistent.—Bagumba (talk) 05:14, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Will do. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Lance Thomas

Hey. I'm sure you are aware of the user constantly editing Lance Thomas. In the past for Perth Wildcats when there was a similar instance, semi-protected was placed as the user was not auto-confirmed yet. I don't believe this user is auto-confirmed – it's getting ridicules and they are not going to stop. Almost 200 edits in a row. Had to go back a mile to find last edit by myself. What do you reckon? DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

User seems to have stopped after your warning, so hopefully they've learned. Thanks for being on the lookout.—Bagumba (talk) 06:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, just came back to say that. Seems to halted for now. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Actual visually impaired editor

Please feel free to inquire further of Graham87 yourself: [4]. He is a long-time editor and a current administrator, and has been blind since birth. His commercially available screen-reader software has no problem parsing the "Current Team Name – No. X" infobox section headers whatsoever. Frankly, I'm surprised no one else thought to ask one of our visually impaired editors if there was an actual problem. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Sim Bhullar Update

Hello Bagumba,

You told me to find a reliable source, so the NBA has published that Sim Bhullar will be signing a 10 day contract with the Sacramento Kings. http://www.nba.com/2015/news/04/01/kings-to-sign-first-nba-player-of-indian-descent.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

Sincerely, UVABallers — Preceding unsigned comment added by UVABallers (talk • contribs) 15:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

The source you cited is based on anonymous sources: "The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity ..." Per WP:RSBREAKING, breaking news based on anonymous sources should be treated with caution. Official announcements are generally forthcoming for these transactions, so there is no hurry to add them. See this official announcement for what non-speculative verbiage looks like: "The Sacramento Kings announced today that the team has signed Sim Bhullar to a 10-day contract, according to Kings General Manager Pete D’Alessandro." You can also refer to WP:SPORTSTRANS for specific guidance on writing about sports transactions. Hope this helps.—Bagumba (talk) 19:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Shaka Smart

Can we lock this article up until the Texas stuff is resolved? Rikster2 (talk) 00:10, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Done—Bagumba (talk) 01:37, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Thx Rikster2 (talk) 01:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Protect Frank Kaminsky?

Big vandalism target tonight, probably not so much after the Final Four. Rikster2 (talk) 02:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Done.—Bagumba (talk) 03:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Larry Johnson (basketball, born 1969)

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Reset for another 6 mos.—Bagumba (talk) 06:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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