Talk:Suicide Squad (2016 film)

Filming already began?

In this tweet by Cara, she reports that she and co-star Margot Robbie are busy filming. Any other sources for this? Npamusic (talk) 01:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

• This is a bit old, but replying anyway. This account seems to be an account dedicated to Cara but isn't run by Cara herself. This means that it's pretty much just reporting on rumors. Jared Leto has just flown in to start filming and he's one of the main characters, so filming should start incredibly soon- anywhere from maybe a day from now or a few days from now. Right now it's just a waiting game to see if there are any official sources that have announced filming, by which I mean accounts that are run by the stars themselves but preferably news media outlets that can get some sort of official confirmation. It's rare, but occasionally you'll get a tweet that was sent out by a representative that was given a time table of when to post, only they were unaware that filming was delayed and sometimes you'll get tweets (or equivalent thereof on other sites) that are set to release on a certain day/time that can be incorrect, like the now infamous Joan Rivers Facebook post. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman has not been confirmed.

Please refrain from adding him until a reliable source is provided. Npamusic (talk) 00:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

here are sources source1, source2 Npamusic (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBUsgkkQ07Q — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.211.133 (talk) 02:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Jim Parrack part of the cast?

In this tweet by Ayer, you can see Parrack on the far right. Care to add it to the page? Npamusic (talk) 02:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Parrack confirms Deathstroke? Adam Beach play Slipknot?

In an instagram post, Jim Parrack seemingly confirmed he's playing Deathstroke. Also, this rumour claims Beach is portraying Slipknot. Npamusic (talk) 01:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Creating a page over a redirect

As reliable sources have stated that filming for this movie has begun, per WP:NFF the article should be created. However, there's already a redirect located at Suicide Squad (film) that needs to be cleared out of the way before this article can be moved to mainspace. APerson (talk!) 22:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks like someone else already got this. --j⚛e decker^talk 05:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

STOP adding rumours

I have noticed that this article has become a target for unsourced claims as people keep adding unconfirmed rumours and speculation with either an unreliable source, a citation that does not confirm the claim added or even no citation at all. To address a few of them specifically, it has NOT been confirmed in any way, shape or form that Lex Luthor, Batman and Plastique are in the film. I will also point out that Latino Review and IMDB are NOT reliable sources, so do not add anything from those sites.Darkknight2149 (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

here are sources source1, source2 Npamusic (talk) 23:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

First of all Daily Mail is not reliable. Secondly, the Batmobile being seen doesn't confirm Affleck is in the movie. There's no deadline, be patient. Rusted AutoParts 23:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. We need to wait for an official confirmation that Ben Affleck has been casted in the film. When the studio or a reliable source comes out and says, "Hey, Ben Affleck is in the movie," THEN we can add him. Darkknight2149 (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

here are more sources I know, I know, CBM isn't a soirce .. But the mention of batman being in the film should be noted somewhere on the page AT LEAST. Npamusic (talk) 19:02, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

We can't add Affleck to the casting list until it is officially confirmed that Affleck is in the film. As for the filming, I don't really see any reason to mention that Batman was seen in leaked set photos, especially if the character himself hasn't been announced for the film. If Batman is in the film, he will probably be announced eventually or a reliable source will confirm it. We aren't in a hurry, so I don't see why it can't wait. Darkknight2149 (talk) 19:25, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I never said Ben Affleck, I said Batman. Including him in the filming section couldn't hurt at all. A mention couldn't be out of place with a source. And Affleck himself was spotted as well from other set photos but that's besides the point. I doubt anyone is go into confirm it until the film is close to bring released but e mention of e Bat mobile and batman on set wouldn't kill anyone. Npamusic (talk) 01:55, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

here is a reliable source for its inclusion. Npamusic (talk) 02:00, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

In my personal opinion, I think the source is enough to mention that Batman was spotted on the set in the "filming" section but we should still wait for confirmation before adding him to the cast list. Darkknight2149 (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

TriiipleThreat, what do you say? Can we add it? Npamusic (talk) 02:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks good to me.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 10:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Should this page be requested for semi-protection?

Despite frequent warnings, people (mostly anonymous users without accounts) will not cease to stop adding unsourced and unconfirmed rumour material. This has been happening repetitively over and over and over, every single day. Myself and other registered editors have revert these edits on a regular basis, I have left a message about this on this very Talk Page, I left an unseen warning on the casting section and I even began leaving messages in the inbox several of the editors who have been adding this material. Despite all of that, this page is still a target for people to keep adding unsourced material. At this point, I am seriously considering requesting this page for Semi-protection. Do any editors object to me doing so if this keeps happening? Darkknight2149 (talk) 19:37, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE: The rumour edits seemed to have cooled down a LOT and I no longer think that semi-protection is necessary (at least not at the moment). Darkknight2149 (talk) 00:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Production Pic

I have uploaded a production pic of the film [1]. Feel free to add it to the article! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:39, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for your contribution.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion surrounding production picture

• Exactly what value does this bring to the article? It is of very poor quality - it's a vertical photo from a long way away, and it shows nothing of any importance about the film. It could be literally anything at all. Not only that, but the photo is also quite grainy. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
• @Koala15: @Sportsfan 1234: @SpeedDemon520: @TriiipleThreat: Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

• "It could be literally anything at all?" Are you suggesting that the person who took this photo is lying when he says it's the production of Suicide Squad? Way to assume bad faith. Also, while you're correct that the photo quality isn't perfect, it's better than nothing. Maybe, if someone takes a better photo of Suicide Squad filming at a later date and decides to post it to Wikipedia, we could use that one in place of this one. SpeedDemon520 (talk) 21:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, what the fuck is up with protecting the page to such a level that only administrators can edit it? That is completely unnecessary. SpeedDemon520 (talk) 21:32, 30 May 2015 (UTC)strike out sockpuppet contribution All Rows4 (talk) 21:37, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

• I noticed the picture and I don't think it's necessary for the article either. There should be better pictures for the future. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 22:53, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Those buses, cones etc. are all part of the film shoot.... Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

• No, SpeedDemon, I'm not suggesting that Sportsfan is lying, and in accusing me of assuming bad faith, you have, ironically, done exactly that yourself. What I was trying to say by "anything at all" is that the photo is completely and utterly generic - as in, it shows nothing major to do with the film. This could be taken from any film set ever. When combined with the fact that the photo itself is pretty poor, it offers no value to this article. And the reason it was fully protected should be obvious - this has been edit-warred back-and-forth over by several of us, with not one person attempting to start a discussion before I did. Sportsfan, I don't doubt that, but your photo really isn't of sufficient quality. The photo itself is too grainy, it's incorrectly orientated, and, as I've already mentioned, it is totally generic. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:38, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

• I dislike the photo as well. You can barely see the filming taking place. If you didn't know that the photo had a filming location in it before looking at it, chances are you would miss it altogether. There ought to be a better photo available soon, as the movie is filming right now. Much like the Ben Affleck situation, we are NOT in a hurry.

As for why the page was protected so that only administrators can edit, it was necessary because the page was already under protection, meaning that everybody who was participating in the edit war was an autoconfirmed user. To avoid situations like this in the future, I suggest you come to the Talk Page first, rather than keeping the edit war going. Darkknight2149 (talk) 23:54, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

• I've uploaded some alternatives, feel free to choose:

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Also please note, I am aware of the typo in filename, they will be moved shortly. I'm personally in favor of #3, shows the set and crew working on the film.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:36, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you for the alternatives. I also prefer #3 for the same reason you mentioned. I'm sure everyone will have their own opinion on which one we should use, though. Darkknight2149 (talk) 13:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
• Agreed, #3 is the best. #1, #4 and #5 don't add anything to the article - they're just pictures of generic cars and could be from every day life. #6 would be good for the Batmobile article, at least potentially; not so sure it fits this one when it is pictured on its own. #2 is almost as good as #3. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Just a note: all the pictures are from the set. The cars in #1, #4 and #5 all have markings of either Midway City or Gotham City.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

• As I've said previously; I don't doubt that at all. My point is that it is very easy to look at those images, and not see how they are relevant to a film set, as they could quite easily be an image from real, everyday life (perceivable, although a dusty cop car would be odd in an inner city). As such, they don't add much value to the article. But images two and three? Those definitely could do. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:44, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

• @Koala15: @Sportsfan 1234:@Jhenderson777: Do any of you have an opinion regarding the proposed alternatives.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 22:03, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Image 2,3 and 6 I like. I assume 6 is the Batmobile? If so it can deserve placements somewhere else (like the Batmobile article) while 2 and/or 3 can maybe go here. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 22:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

2, 3, and 6 would all be fine in the article. Koala15 (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

• I think we have enough of a concensus to add #3 to the article. Thank you all for your input.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Superhero film?

I don't really think that this counts as a superhero movie considering that it is starring villains and as far as we know, there won't even be any superheroes in it, at least not as major roles. JDDJS (talk) 23:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

The film may not star superheroes but it is very much a part of the superhero genre, making it a superhero film in my opinion. Darkknight2149 (talk) 23:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

In regards to this film, they're more like anti-heroes but I agree with Darkknight, superhero film is a distinct genre of film, that this fits squarely in.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:33, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I think you guys would like to see the articles The Punisher (1989 film) and Howard the Duck (film). Do they qualify as superhero movies, despite being based on Marvel characters? I think this is in a similar situation. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:36, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

They might. There are many factors at play here: subject matter, setting, tone, tropes, etc. But it really comes down to reliable sources.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:56, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Exactly what Darkknight2149 said. It is very much in the superhero film genre. It is also set in a superhero shared universe. Dash9Z (talk) 18:09, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

The logo picture is fan made, the real one is on the website

suicidesquad.com

It isn't fan made. They are variations on the same logo. But if you want to switch them out, I don't think anyone is stopping you. Darkknight2149 (talk) 01:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Rick Flagg vs. Rick Flag

A user recently changed the spelling of "Rick Flag" to "Rick Flag" on the grounds that the majority of sources spell his name as "Flagg" with a double "g." (S)he isn't the first user to do this. However, while I completely see where this user is coming from, this is likely a spelling error made by the sources. When it comes to the two most reliable sources, the Hollywood Reporter uses "Rick Flagg," [2] but Variety only uses "Rick Flag." [3] Primary sources, such as the official DC Comics website, also use "Rick Flag." [4] [5] This makes it apparent that "Flagg" is just a common spelling error. Darkknight2149 (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Tagging relevant editors: @Sock

I was unaware that DC Comics' official site had reported it as Flag. I assumed the spelling had been changed for aesthetic reasons, but if that's what the official site says, I have no arguments. We should include a source in the cast section that spells it that way, though. Sock (tock talk) 16:57, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I have just provided a few citations that spell "Flagg" as "Flag" in the article. Darkknight2149 (talk) 17:10, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Character names

There's a dispute over adding the civilian names of the characters in the film. These are not sourced, they're not relevant, they're not how the characters are primarily known or identified, there's no evidence that these names will carry over either consistently or at all. Despite this, Dash feels it entirely right to add these civilian names including nicknames like "digger" because hey, those sources are just using the codenames because they're all lazy. This falls under the same dispute as The Dark Knight Rises where Selina Kyle is never referred to or identified as Catwoman in the film and so is not meant to be listed as such. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 21:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Addendum : "The civilian names have been here. You can't just come here and remove them. " Yes, yes I can. The information is sourced, you don't WP:OWN the article and others are free to edit it. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:10, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

If the user can provide a reliable third party source or a primary source that refers to the characters by their civilian names, then I think we should keep them in the article. If not, then I think we should leave the civilian names out of the article. Sometimes it is easy to forget that just because a character has a particular name in the comic books does not mean that they have that name in the movie as well. Darkknight2149 (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Of course I don't own the article, it's a collaborative work. But how are you going remove the civilian names just because you don't think they're relevant? I appreciate you adding character information but not removing the character's civilian names. Here's some sources: http://www.mtv.com/news/2150672/suicide-squad-rundown/ http://www.designntrend.com/articles/49288/20150430/suicide-squad-movie-cast-footage-of-will-smith-as-deadshot-leaks-onto-the-web-watch.htm http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Watch-Smith-Get-His-Deadshot-Suicide-Squad-Training-71369.html Dash9Z (talk) 22:43, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Two of them talk primarily about Smith, one is citing exclusively comic information and the other appears to have got it's information from this article. None of those sources state that those names will be used in the film. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Ben Affleck in this movie?

Well, there were pictures of Affleck on the set of this film and plus it appears that Affleck's batman was in the comic-con trailer. I don't know, I'm an idiot, but I'm pretty sure that was Ben Affleck batamn. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:00, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Ben Affleck and Batman haven't been officially announced or confirmed by Warner Brothers, nor by credible sources such as Variety or the Hollywood Reporter. Yes, Batman appeared in set photos and yes, he appears in the trailer but that isn't a confirmation. Since he appeared in the trailer, it is pretty safe to assume Ben Affleck is in the movie but we don't assume on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is about what is verifiable, not what we assume to be true. Darkknight2149 (talk) 05:31, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

What about this recently posted article? http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/01/10/batman-v-superman-suicide-squad-2016-superhero-movies/78249180/ DCTrinity (talk) 13:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

As long as that exact article is used as a citation everywhere that claims Affleck is in the film, then I think that this pretty much confirms he's in it. With the citation, I don't see why we can't include it, now that we have an official confirmation and not just some leaked set photo or trailer. DarkKnight2149 20:28, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Since Talk Page consensus is needed before we can add him (due to the article's history of disruptive editing), are there any other comments or objections? Personally, I'd say that this pretty much confirms he's in it. DarkKnight2149 20:36, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

So it's ok then to add him to the cast section? DCTrinity (talk) 22:45, 10 January 2016

Someone already did. The consensus seems to be that he's confirmed. DarkKnight2149 06:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Jim Parrack's role in Suicide Squad

I heard on Movieweb in an article titled "Suicide Squad Will Feature Henchman Jonny Frost" that Jim Parrack will play Jonny Frost. Jonny Frost was the Joker's henchman in the graphic novel Joker and I heard that Jonny Frost will be who Jim Parrack will play in Suicide Squad. Add that to the Suicide Squad (Film) Page, if you will please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntManLang (talk • contribs) 01:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

We can't add it. It hasn't been confirmed, therefore it is rumour. The original source came from a ComicBook.com article saying that Parrack is SEEMINGLY (their word, not mine) playing Jonny Frost because Jonny Frost was mentioned in a tweet from one of the cast members. When WB or a reliable source like Variety makes it 100% official that Parrack is playing Frost, THEN we can add it. Darkknight2149 (talk) 02:31, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Ben Affleck article

In his article on the Wikipedia it states that we will be in the film which is cited. Is it false or does this page need to be updated? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Just ignore it. Anonymous users keep adding that in the Ben Affleck article and we keep having to revert it. We can't add Ben Affleck until he is officially confirmed for the film. Darkknight2149 (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Recent article on Comicbook.com confirm Batman will appear but it does not specifically state that Affleck will be the one to play him. Would this be reasonable confirmation to add Batman to the cast without naming Affleck considering? Brocicle (talk) 22:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This article is just a recap of everything comicbook.com thinks they know about the film. That particular section was entirely speculation, too. Sorry, we can't use it. I definitely feel like we're close to getting a confirmation though. Rmaynardjr (talk) 13:47, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Empire Magazine

Would the variant covers of Empire Magazine that include four (so far) characters on the cover and article information count as marketing? Brocicle (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I would think so. Darkknight2149 (talk) 00:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

The Squad members' real names

According to User:Dash9Z, this video mentions the real names of the Suicide Squad members. I can't access the video because of my place's internet settings, but can it be used? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:40, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Even if it mentions the real names, its not relevant per WP: COMMONNAME. This isn't a fan wikia and it isn't a directory. That said, I watched the video and I didn't see it mention half the names that Dash claims it does, it mentions Floyd Lawton and Harleen QUinzel, Harley especially will not be commonly known as that in the film, and the video also refers to Leto as "The Joker" which contradicts the given credit as "Joker", and then when giving the lineup, Geoff Johns again only uses the codenames, so it's third party material about the film, not by the people making the film. Nowhere did I see it mention George Harkness, Waylon Jones, or Chato Santana. And IF he using that video as a source, then he's conveniently ignored that she is shown as Dr Harleen F. Quinzel and just gone with what is suitable for him. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 21:38, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

User:Kailash29792, here's the parts of DC Films Presents: Dawn of the Justice League uploaded on YouTube which mentions the real names. (Part 2, Part 3). It mentions the names at the bottom when a cast member first appears. Hopefully you'll be able to see it. User: Darkwarriorblake, both the real names and identity names are used in articles such as "Bruce Wayne / Batman" or "Peter Parker / Spider-Man" and those two characters are mostly known by their hero names. I never said it mentions all the names. I said it "shows they use the real names" meaning the characters are not just going to be known as just Deadshot or Captain Boomerang and recognizes the characters have real names as well. Geoff Johns also mentions other characters such as Batman and Superman by their codenames but that doesn't mean they don't have real names. During the Will Smith interview, he says Floyd Lawton. This was a production by DC themselves which are also involved with the film, not by a third party. When I was typing in the real names here in Wikipedia, I used the names as it came to my head but I have no problem using "The Joker" and "Dr. Harleen F. Quinzel". Why are you against using the real names? Dash9Z (talk) 00:39, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Give Chicago some credit?

I've seen the trailer and it seems that the film was also filmed in Chicago, Illinois. I went online to search it up and found out that additional filming took place in Chicago during August. Here are the sources -> Chicago Tribune, Telegraph.UK, and DCComics Movie. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Official synopsis?

This seems to convey something. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:07, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Interesting read. It does confirm the presence of an "enigmatic, insuperable entity". Of course, because this is the DC Universe, there are so many of these "entities" that it's impossible to know which one it is. Regardless, I don't see any harm in briefly giving that a mention in the article. We can always add the specifics after a confirmation is released. DarkKnight2149 16:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2016

But as the same time it was very painful

change "as the" to "at the"

Suspect typo error 146.199.7.120 (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Some of the character descriptions should be moved to the casting info section.

I'm specifically talking here about The Joker and how Leto prepared for his role. A lot of it seems like it belongs in the casting section and not the character description section. I was going to bring the relevant info down into the section but it almost needs to be completely rewritten to fit.

Perhaps someone could help me? If you need a guide, Batman V Superman has an excellent casting section. --Deathawk (talk) 02:09, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Official Suicide Squad Runtime Revealed

Suicide Squad confirmed to run at 130 minutes (2 hours and 10 minutes) long via Collider speaking with sources at Warner Bros: http://collider.com/suicide-squad-runtime/