Talk:Hispanics in the United States Coast Guard

Which is it? Perhaps this needs article needs to be reviewed and reassessed...

This is an entry from the section The U.S. Coast Guard Academy:

• Detlef Frederick Argentine de Otte, born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, entered the Revenue Cutter Service Academy (as the USCGA was previously known) in 1889 and graduated in 1891. He is the first Hispanic to the reach the rank of Commodore and to receive a promotion to Rear Admiral in retirement.

• The first Hispanic American to graduate from the academy was Paul Powers Perez, class of 1945, followed by John Gazzo Martinez, class of 1951.

They can't both be the first, which is it?

Actually, Paul Perez (my father) was not of Hispanic descent, or at least not directly. His father was born Paul Fridenberg, and he and his brother wanted to join the Navy during WWI. My Grandfather was under age and thought attempting to enlist with a German surname would lead to additional scrutiny which would likely reveal his age. Both he and his brother chose to change their name to Perez (which, according to family folklore, had appeared once much further back in the family tree). My father was thus christened Perez, but he never considered himself to be Hispanic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.44.181.74 (talk) 22:11, 16 June 2019 (UTC) 108.44.181.169 (talk) Amanda P. Perez

• Nice, but where is the proof of what you seem to be claiming? You make it sound as if being "Hispanic" is a sin or something. However, giving you the benefit of a doubt, why don't you provide a verifiable reliable source to back up your claim? That would help to unravel the truth in accordance to Wikipedia policy. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Tony The Marine: I am Amanda Perez, daughter of Paul Powers Perez. This link will take you to a geneology, showing that his grand Father was Robert Fridenberg. Look on the right hand side, about half way down. I have nothing against hispanics, just trying to set the record straight. 108.44.181.169 (talk) 23:15, 2 August 2020 (UTC) Amanda P. Perez

• Argentine de Otte was a native of "Argentina" while Powers Perez was the first native "Hispanic-American". Meaning that he was the first person of Hispanic descent born in the U.S.

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From the Chronological list of personal Hispanic accomplishments in the USCG section of the article:

• YNC Grisel Hollis was the first Hispanic-American female advanced to chief petty officer on May 1, 1991.[8][28]

• In 1992, Sonia Colon became the first Hispanic American female advanced to chief petty officer.[8][28]

Again, they can't both be first... also:

• You are correct and your observation is valid. It was a question of a typo error. Colon is the "second" Hispanic American female advanced to chief petty officer.

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• Detlef Frederick Argentine de Otte, born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, entered the Revenue Cutter Service Academy (as the USCGA was previously known) in 1889 and graduated in 1891. He is the first Hispanic to the reach the rank of Commodore and to receive a promotion to Rear Admiral in retirement.

• In 2006, Ronald J. Rábago was the first Hispanic-American promoted to Rear Admiral (lower half).

Once again, they can't both be first.

• Same as above. While Argentine de Otte was the first "Hispanic" to be promoted to Rear Admiral in his retirement, he was not the first "Hispanic-American", Rábago was.

Tony the Marine (talk) 20:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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The content, style, and referencing of this article do not conform to Wikipedia standards for a Good Article. Cuprum17 (talk) 19:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• There were some issues which were confusing and merited some concerns. Those mentioned above have been taken care of. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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