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== Suggestions for improving this list == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2023 == |
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Change Bilal Baig birth year from unkown to 1995 [[User:DeweyTheCat2014|DeweyTheCat2014]] ([[User talk:DeweyTheCat2014|talk]]) 14:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{Not done|No source}}. Do you have a source for this? [[User:Cocobb8|'''<span style="color:purple">Coco</span><span style="color:green">bb8</span>''']] (💬 [[User talk:Cocobb8|talk to me!]] • ✏️ [[Special:Contributions/Cocobb8|my contributions]]) 16:13, 9 June 2023 (UTC) |
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This list currently only includes a small fraction of the notable non-binary people on Wikipedia. It can be filled out more by adding people from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=deepcat%3A%22Non-binary+people%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%22fields%22%3A%7B%22deepcategory%22%3A%5B%22Non-binary+people%22%5D%7D%7D&ns0=1] and [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fperson%20%3FpersonLabel%20%3FbirthYear%20%3FdeathYear%20%3FnationalityLabel%20%3FgenderLabel%20%3Farticle%20%28GROUP_CONCAT%28DISTINCT%20%3FoccupationLabel%3B%20separator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20AS%20%3Foccupations%29%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%3B%20%20%23%20Instance%20of%20human%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ48270%3B%20%20%23%20Gender%3A%20non-binary%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP569%20%3FbirthDate.%20%7D%20%20%20%23%20Date%20of%20birth%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP570%20%3FdeathDate.%20%7D%20%20%23%20Date%20of%20death%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP27%20%3Fnationality.%20%7D%20%20%23%20Nationality%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP106%20%3Foccupation.%20%7D%20%20%23%20Occupation%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP21%20%3Fgender.%20%7D%20%20%23%20Gender%20identity%0A%20%20%0A%20%20%3Farticle%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fperson%3B%20%20%23%20Link%20to%20the%20English%20Wikipedia%20article%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22en%22%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2F%3E.%0A%0A%20%20BIND%28YEAR%28%3FbirthDate%29%20AS%20%3FbirthYear%29%0A%20%20BIND%28YEAR%28%3FdeathDate%29%20AS%20%3FdeathYear%29%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fperson%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FpersonLabel.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fnationality%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FnationalityLabel.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fgender%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FgenderLabel.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Foccupation%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FoccupationLabel.%0A%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fperson%20%3FpersonLabel%20%3FbirthYear%20%3FdeathYear%20%3FnationalityLabel%20%3FgenderLabel%20%3Farticle%0A]. Eventually, this list is going to get too big to be easily maintainable. At some point, it should probably be converted into a list of lists, similar to [[Lists of men]] and [[Lists of women]]. Alternatively, if {{tl|Wikidata list}} is ever allowed in article space, we should probably switch to using that. [[User:Nosferattus|Nosferattus]] ([[User talk:Nosferattus|talk]]) 16:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Agreed. Perhaps we could separate by categories of professions (artists, writers, activists, entertainers, etc). [[User:Urchincrawler|Urchincrawler]] ([[User talk:Urchincrawler|talk]]) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::That is a great idea. [[User:Nosferattus|Nosferattus]] ([[User talk:Nosferattus|talk]]) 23:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Add "Sara Ramirez" |
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DOB 31/08/1975 |
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Gender: Non binary |
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Actor, singer and activist for LGBTQIA+ rights. [[Special:Contributions/82.1.227.216|82.1.227.216]] ([[User talk:82.1.227.216|talk]]) 06:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 9 July 2024 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''Moved''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]], [[WP:CRITERIA|Concision]], and for consistency with similar lists <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Quadrantal|Quadrantal]] ([[User talk:Quadrantal|talk]]) 06:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Want to add the following people to the list. |
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[[:List of people with non-binary gender identities]] → {{no redirect|List of non-binary people}} – Per [[Wikipedia:Article titles]], the title should be "no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects." Also, "non-binary people" is the more [[WP:COMMONNAME|common term]] used by both reliable sources[https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22non-binary+people%22][https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22people+with+non-binary+gender+identities%22] and LGBT groups.[https://glaad.org/reference/nonbinary/][https://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-and-non-binary-faq][https://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-nonbinary-people-how-to-be-respectful-and-supportive] [[User:Nosferattus|Nosferattus]] ([[User talk:Nosferattus|talk]]) 16:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Confirmed non-binary via their individual Wikipedia pages: |
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:'''Support''' [[User:CycoMa1|CycoMa1]] ([[User talk:CycoMa1|talk]]) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' "Identities" is definitely unnecessary in the title. Given that the term "non-binary" is generally understood by most readers now, I think it is safe to do without "gender" as well. Anybody who is confused only has to read the first line of the article for clarification. --[[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal|talk]]) 18:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''', more in line with current usage. <span style="font-family:Palatino">[[User:Crossroads|'''Crossroads''']]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]]</sup> 19:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| [[Ian Alexander]] |
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| align=center | 2001 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Actor |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2020/11/05/transgender-actor-ian-alexander-the-newest-star-trek-star-didnt-get-the-part-he-auditioned-for/?sh=2746af59149a|work=[[Forbes]]|title=Transgender Actor Ian Alexander, The Newest ‘Star Trek’ Star, Didn’t Get The Part He Auditioned For|last=Ennis|first=Dawn|date=November 2020}}</ref> |
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| [[Blu del Barrio]] |
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| align=center | 1997 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Actor |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://people.com/tv/blu-del-barrio-on-becoming-star-trek-first-non-binary-star/?utm=newsbreak|work=[[People]]|title=Blu del Barrio on Becoming Star Trek's First Non-Binary Star — and How It Helped Them Come Out|last=Guglielmi|first=Jodi|date=October 2020}}</ref> |
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| [[Celia Rose Gooding]] |
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| align=center | 2000 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Actor |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/celiargooding/|work=[[Instagram]]|title=celia rose gooding (@celiargooding) • Instagram photos and videos|last=Gooding|first=Celia Rose|date=December 2023}}</ref> |
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| [[Jin Maley]] |
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| align=center | 1986 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Actor |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.slashfilm.com/1215901/the-alien-centric-crew-of-the-titan-is-a-highlight-of-star-trek-picard-season-3/|work=[[SlashFilm]]|title=The Alien-Centric Crew Of The Titan Is A Highlight Of Star Trek: Picard Season 3|last=Seibold|first=Witney|date=March 2023}}</ref> |
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| [[Mae Martin]] |
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| align=center | 1987 |
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| Canadian |
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| Non-binary |
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| Comedian, actor, screenwriter |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/04/14/mae-martin-non-binary-feel-good-pronouns/|work=[[PinkNews]]|title=Feel Good comedian Mae Martin comes out as non-binary: ‘I love it when people call me they’|last=Milton|first=Josh|date=April 2021}}</ref> |
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| [[John Cameron Mitchell]] |
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| align=center | 1963 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Actor, playwright, screenwriter, singer, songwriter, producer, director |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.pride.com/comingout/2022/3/04/actor-john-cameron-mitchell-comes-out-nonbinary|work=[[Pride]]|title=Actor John Cameron Mitchell Comes Out As Nonbinary |last=Henderson|first=Taylor|date=March 2022}}</ref> |
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| [[Stephen Trask]] |
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| align=center | 1966 |
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| American |
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| Non-binary |
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| Musician, composer |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/stephentrask/status/1397924041747353608|work=[[X (Formerly Twitter)]]|title=I’m non-binary, not that anyone asked |last=Trask|first=Stephen|date=May 2021}}</ref> |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Liu1126|Liu1126]] ([[User talk:Liu1126|talk]]) 17:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' for simplicity. At first, I'd like to point out that not everyone with a non-binary identity self-identifies as non-binary. But as [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 30#Category:People with non-binary gender identities|discussed here]], we can ignore that nuance and rename per nom. --[[User:MikutoH|<span style="color: #be1918;">'''MikutoH'''</span>]] [[User talk:MikutoH|<sup><span style="color:#ee8b39;"> '''talk!''' </span></sup>]] 00:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::'''Support''' Non-binary people is more concise than "people with non-binary identities." Also [[Lists of women|Lists of Women]] isn't phrased as "Lists of people with female identity" so it's inconsistent to treat non-binary people differently. I support the change because of [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:CONSISTENT]] |
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:[[User:Urchincrawler|Urchincrawler]] ([[User talk:Urchincrawler|talk]]) 19:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' per nomination. [[User:Funcrunch|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch|talk]]) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Add Gerard Way? == |
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I've never edited lists but someone should add Gerard Way [[Special:Contributions/2001:9E8:480E:3700:255A:7677:8282:A3E1|2001:9E8:480E:3700:255A:7677:8282:A3E1]] ([[User talk:2001:9E8:480E:3700:255A:7677:8282:A3E1|talk]]) 08:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Want to add the following person to the list. |
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== Requested addition to list == |
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Confirmed non-binary via their individual Wikipedia page: |
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Hello! On behalf of the subject and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I'd like to suggest the addition to [[V Pappas]] to this list, per [https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/nbc-out-proud/tiktok-executive-comes-nonbinary-rcna69516 NBC News] and other sources. If a link is added, I hope editors will consider removing the orphan tag from the [[V Pappas]] entry. Thanks! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 13:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} [[User:Hyphenation Expert|Hyphenation Expert]] ([[User talk:Hyphenation Expert|talk]]) 08:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| [[Hannah Gadsby]] |
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::Thanks for reviewing. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 14:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| align=center | 1978 |
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| Australian |
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| Genderqueer |
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| Comedian, writer, actor |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://theconversation.com/hannah-gadsby-navigates-the-mirror-maze-of-trauma-as-an-autistic-gender-queer-comedian-176010|work=[[The Conversation]]|title=Hannah Gadsby navigates the mirror maze of trauma as an autistic, gender queer comedian |last=Bastow|first=Clem|date=April 2022}}</ref> |
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| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://apnews.com/article/hannah-gadsby-something-special-netflix-486e5d4ac0ec9ccf170c703f627decc9|work=[[Associated Press]]|title=Comedian Hannah Gadsby returns with a stand-up ‘love letter’|last=Kennedy|first=Mark|date=May 2023}}</ref> |
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:Can you share the source evidence which demonstrates that this person is non-binary? The source you cited uses "she/her" pronouns for this person, which may be identification on the binary. [[User:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Bluerasberry '''</span>]][[User talk:Bluerasberry|<span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span>]] 16:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::Added another, more up to date source above, includes: "Gadsby, who uses the pronoun they ..." [[User:OrderEmergent|OrderEmergent]] ([[User talk:OrderEmergent|talk]]) 16:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Suggestions for improving this list
[edit]This list currently only includes a small fraction of the notable non-binary people on Wikipedia. It can be filled out more by adding people from [1] and [2]. Eventually, this list is going to get too big to be easily maintainable. At some point, it should probably be converted into a list of lists, similar to Lists of men and Lists of women. Alternatively, if {{Wikidata list}} is ever allowed in article space, we should probably switch to using that. Nosferattus (talk) 16:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Perhaps we could separate by categories of professions (artists, writers, activists, entertainers, etc). Urchincrawler (talk) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is a great idea. Nosferattus (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 9 July 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved per WP:COMMONNAME, Concision, and for consistency with similar lists (non-admin closure) Quadrantal (talk) 06:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
List of people with non-binary gender identities → List of non-binary people – Per Wikipedia:Article titles, the title should be "no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects." Also, "non-binary people" is the more common term used by both reliable sources[3][4] and LGBT groups.[5][6][7] Nosferattus (talk) 16:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support CycoMa1 (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support "Identities" is definitely unnecessary in the title. Given that the term "non-binary" is generally understood by most readers now, I think it is safe to do without "gender" as well. Anybody who is confused only has to read the first line of the article for clarification. --DanielRigal (talk) 18:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support, more in line with current usage. Crossroads -talk- 19:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support for simplicity. At first, I'd like to point out that not everyone with a non-binary identity self-identifies as non-binary. But as discussed here, we can ignore that nuance and rename per nom. --MikutoH talk! 00:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support Non-binary people is more concise than "people with non-binary identities." Also Lists of Women isn't phrased as "Lists of people with female identity" so it's inconsistent to treat non-binary people differently. I support the change because of WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT
- Urchincrawler (talk) 19:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Funcrunch (talk) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Add Gerard Way?
[edit]I've never edited lists but someone should add Gerard Way 2001:9E8:480E:3700:255A:7677:8282:A3E1 (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested addition to list
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello! On behalf of the subject and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I'd like to suggest the addition to V Pappas to this list, per NBC News and other sources. If a link is added, I hope editors will consider removing the orphan tag from the V Pappas entry. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 13:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Hyphenation Expert (talk) 08:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
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