Talk:Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. (film): Revision history

21 February 2024

• curprev 15:4415:44, 21 February 2024 Cewbot talk contribs m 30,004 bytes −22 Maintain {{WPBS}}: 3 WikiProject templates. Keep majority rating "Start" in {{WPBS}}. Remove 3 same ratings as {{WPBS}} in {{WikiProject Television}}, {{WikiProject Film}}, {{WikiProject Comics}}. undo Tag: Talk banner shell conversion

2 November 2021

• curprev 17:1317:13, 2 November 2021 GreenComputer talk contribs 30,026 bytes +266 →"Wheelchair-bound": A RfC about the usage of "wheelchair-bound" and "confined to a wheelchair" has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RFC on wheelchair-based language undo Tag: 2017 wikitext editor

1 November 2021

• curprev 15:3715:37, 1 November 2021 Herostratus talk contribs 29,760 bytes +1,228 →"Wheelchair-bound": mnmh undo
• curprev 14:1814:18, 1 November 2021 Valereee talk contribs 28,532 bytes +1,088 →"Wheelchair-bound": Reply undo Tag: Reply
• curprev 12:5912:59, 1 November 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 27,444 bytes +268 →"Wheelchair-bound": correcting a previous question of mine that didn't come out right undo

31 October 2021

• curprev 21:2821:28, 31 October 2021 GoodDay talk contribs 27,176 bytes −14 →"Wheelchair-bound": Please outdent. Otherwise, discussion will become un-readible undo
• curprev 21:2721:27, 31 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 27,190 bytes +101 →"Wheelchair-bound": also undo
• curprev 21:2521:25, 31 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 27,089 bytes 0 →"Wheelchair-bound": unneeded caps undo
• curprev 21:2521:25, 31 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 27,089 bytes +447 →"Wheelchair-bound": Reply undo Tag: Reply
• curprev 21:2321:23, 31 October 2021 GoodDay talk contribs 26,642 bytes +211 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 20:5920:59, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 26,431 bytes +540 →"Wheelchair-bound": "Fu Manchu" ''is'' an ethnic slur, one we wouldn't use in discussing a real person, but use in identifying this fictional character. I notice that none of the people discussing the phrase, "wheelchair-bound", whether for or against, hesitate to ''use'' the phrase in this discussion, the way they might hesitate to use an actual slur. There is no clever piping to conceal the phrase as offensive. undo
• curprev 20:5020:50, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 25,891 bytes +492 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 20:4620:46, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 25,399 bytes +242 →"Wheelchair-bound": You mean something like Fu Manchu? Or Fu Manchu (Marvel Comics)? Or Fu Manchu moustache? undo
• curprev 20:2420:24, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 25,157 bytes +294 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 20:1020:10, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 24,863 bytes +257 →"Wheelchair-bound": Show me a style guide directed towards writing about fictional characters rather than real-world journalistic topics. undo
• curprev 19:5719:57, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 24,606 bytes +415 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 19:5019:50, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 24,191 bytes +1,191 →"Wheelchair-bound": What I am "resisting to" here is a pretentious effort to impose wording in a tenor that is out of place to the subject being discussed. undo
• curprev 18:0218:02, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 23,000 bytes +665 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 17:5417:54, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 22,335 bytes +290 →"Wheelchair-bound": Sources exist that continue to use the term, contradicting that. An infinite number of style guides can't overcome a handful of instances of actual usage. undo
• curprev 17:3417:34, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 22,045 bytes +272 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 17:2917:29, 31 October 2021 MarshallKe talk contribs 21,773 bytes +398 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 16:5516:55, 31 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 21,375 bytes +289 →"Wheelchair-bound": for present-day readership undo
• curprev 15:4115:41, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 21,086 bytes +679 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 06:3506:35, 31 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 20,407 bytes +545 →"Wheelchair-bound": The depiction of the character matters. There are certainly fictional characters whose use of a wheelchair is portrayed with some nuance - Professor X, Barbara Gordon as Oracle. I am not even arguing that all fictional characters should be treated the same. The use of the phrase relevant in this case is the use in this article, succinctly describing this fictional character, as portrayed in this media. undo
• curprev 03:3703:37, 31 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 19,862 bytes +400 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 03:0203:02, 31 October 2021 GoodDay talk contribs 19,462 bytes +262 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo

30 October 2021

• curprev 21:4621:46, 30 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 19,200 bytes +715 Well that's easy. 100% of the depictions of this fictional character in this medium are of the character in a wheelchair. There are no sources suggesting that this portrayal of the fictional Nazi psychic supervillain Arnim Zola got out of his wheelchair to eat or sleep, or used a standing frame. "Wheelchair-bound" is an intrinsic element of the character's fictional identity. This is different, of course, from the MCU version of Arnim Zola, who uploads his consciousness to a computer. undo
• curprev 21:1021:10, 30 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 18,485 bytes +466 →"Wheelchair-bound": + undo
• curprev 19:4319:43, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 18,019 bytes +330 →"Wheelchair-bound": re undo
• curprev 19:2819:28, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 17,689 bytes +631 →"Wheelchair-bound": can't change a name undo
• curprev 18:4418:44, 30 October 2021 Doremo talk contribs 17,058 bytes +394 →"Wheelchair-bound": comment undo
• curprev 17:5317:53, 30 October 2021 GoodDay talk contribs 16,664 bytes +220 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 17:5117:51, 30 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 16,444 bytes +11 →"Wheelchair-bound": unintentional I'm sure undo
• curprev 17:4617:46, 30 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 16,433 bytes +708 →"Wheelchair-bound": Reply undo Tag: Reply
• curprev 17:4617:46, 30 October 2021 MapReader talk contribs 15,725 bytes +170 →"Wheelchair-bound": R :) undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 17:4217:42, 30 October 2021 Valereee talk contribs 15,555 bytes +558 →"Wheelchair-bound": + undo
• curprev 17:4017:40, 30 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 14,997 bytes +743 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 17:2817:28, 30 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 14,254 bytes +820 →"Wheelchair-bound": If we were talking about Hawking, or any real person, this would not be an issue. As applied to a fictional Nazi psychic supervillain, it is overcorrection. undo
• curprev 11:5211:52, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 13,434 bytes +347 →"Wheelchair-bound": ps undo
• curprev 11:3711:37, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs m 13,087 bytes −1 →"Wheelchair-bound": typo undo
• curprev 11:3611:36, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs m 13,088 bytes +3 →"Wheelchair-bound": to undo
• curprev 11:3411:34, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 13,085 bytes +1,524 →"Wheelchair-bound": my take undo
• curprev 11:0411:04, 30 October 2021 Fowler&fowler talk contribs 11,561 bytes +899 →"Wheelchair-bound": analysis of the joke undo

29 October 2021

• curprev 18:1018:10, 29 October 2021 Persicifolia talk contribs 10,662 bytes +334 →"Wheelchair-bound": Homeward Bound? actually quite funny undo
• curprev 17:5917:59, 29 October 2021 BD2412 talk contribs 10,328 bytes +294 →"Wheelchair-bound": Whether ''The Hill'' is editorializing or not is irrelevant. They are a major media outlet. Their usage is informative of what constitutes normal English usage. undo
• curprev 17:3817:38, 29 October 2021 MapReader talk contribs 10,034 bytes +156 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 17:3417:34, 29 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 9,878 bytes +726 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 17:2017:20, 29 October 2021 Persicifolia talk contribs 9,152 bytes +730 →"Wheelchair-bound": specifics - 'full-time wheelchair user' vs occasional or ambulatory wheelchair user undo
• curprev 17:0517:05, 29 October 2021 MarshallKe talk contribs 8,422 bytes +315 →"Wheelchair-bound" undo
• curprev 16:5416:54, 29 October 2021 Grapple X talk contribs 8,107 bytes +196 →"Wheelchair-bound": r undo